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    - It Is Difficult to Get a Man to Understand Something When His Salary Depends ...

    Started by TDoS Feb 13, 2024, 05:26 PM

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    Feb 13, 2024, 05:26 PM
    Quote from: RE on Feb 12, 2024, 06:17 PM
    Quote from: TDoS on Feb 12, 2024, 03:51 PMIs it because by simply assembing them together in one place all the conspiracy angles and peak oil claims would be dispatched and we would know WAY more about remaining oil volumes than we should?
    You think there is a conspiracy to prevent Peak Oil claims from being dispatched?  That seems highly unlikely, to be polite.
    The full quote is:
    QuoteData on one of those plays contained here. So the interesting point is...obviously some folks know quite well how much oil there is for a given price...but these constructs are HARD to find.
    Is it because by simply assembing them together in one place all the conspiracy angles and peak oil claims would be dispatched and we would know WAY more about remaining oil volumes than we should?

    First, I demonstrated that the capability of one government agency to know both size and profitable cost of some resource.  Could it be that they aren't worried about peak oil, exactly because they know just what is needed to make these calculations? And are softly giggling in their white tower over the nonsense spewing out over the internet, dating back 20+ years? Call it a conspiracy of the experts, in plain sight. They put their peak oil date out there back in 2005 or thereabouts, called it for 2037 with a scenario or two depending on those USGS estimates, if memory serves. They did this AFTER the USGS (Hubbert's world class geologic buddies) published their estimate of world oil resources in 2000. Combine the expertise of Hubbert's coworkers and best geologists in the country if not the world with the one government agency collecting all sorts of information allowing them to figure out costs for those resources and presto....the one gang that knew 20 years ago about all the peaker nonsense and just kept their mouths shut except for that one study. To date..the only gang from back in the early 21st century not discredited. Not the primarily internet based amateur hour folks and random academics looking to make a doom name for themselves (Guy "can I grief counsel you with sexy talk after scaring you my dear" McPherson) with cool website names. Or warmed over ex employed geologists from the 90's trying to make a name for themselves after their consulting gig with PetroConsultatns fell through?

    Goverment secret? Or all us lunkheads too stupid to realize they already have revealed enough to prove their estimate of 2037 exists for a reason?

    Quote from: REDrillers don't publish data on how much oil there is for a given price because they don't want other drillers to know how much a given spot has until AFTER they secure financing to lease it and start drilling it themselves.
    US oil and gas companies report all sorts of things to the EIA. By law. Do you know everything they are required by law to report? Particularly the pieces that are propritary in the interest of national secuity? Do you think they would tell any of us if they did? Energy security for the country was the reason the place was stood up in the first place. I certainly don't know any of those answers. Do you think they would even tell any of us if they did? You look for the hints that they know plenty. I provided one. You'll notice that none of the information in the link I provided said WHERE the oil was. Just the overarching answer that peakers couldn't assemble with 20 years to do it. How much..and FOR how much. And they just casually roll it out in some publication as though "no big deal". For them, it might be just that compared to the amateur hour everyone else was getting hysterical over. 

    The EIA doesn't give a crap about financing and whatnot, they aren't drilling for oil. They just collect info that allows them to say something that I've never seen a peak oil advocate kick out. You've been around for awhile, have you? The only one I can remotely think of, and containing orders of magnitude less detail, was put out by the IEA some decade or more ago. Other than that, none of the internet talking heads have anything to match that one, let along the one I referenced.

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