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#21
The four horsemen / Major US Food Shortages Could ...
Last post by K-Dog - Jun 07, 2025, 10:40 AM

The ensurfication project is failing.  Who kouda knowd?

The legions of unemployed that Elon so graciously handed over to Trump's ungrateful, grifting carcass aren't stampeding toward rural farms to break their backs for starvation wages. Who kouda knowd?

They won't be that desperate until crops rot in the fields.  The geniuses at the Heritage Foundation, in their infinite, spreadsheet-driven wisdom, somehow failed to figure this in. More time at farmerama might have been a good idea.  But why would they do that.  Egos like harvests don't wait. Same as crops do not give two shits about project 2025 libertarian fever dreams of a disposable underclass.  Crops ripen on their own time.

But, when you're a frothing Christian fundie with more daddy issues than a megachurch parking lot, reality is not part of your equations. Your specialty is twisting Christ's message of radical love into a boot stomping on the face of the poor.

Because nothing says "love thy neighbor" like watching them starve while you smugly quote Ayn Rand. 

He-Haw, bring on the four horsemen.
#22
Tech is always to the rescue / - The endless persuit of MOR...
Last post by RE - Jun 06, 2025, 07:18 PM
Quote from: K-Dog on Jun 06, 2025, 05:52 PMI deleted three posts from TDOS, each one more insulting than the last.  Insulting other Diners violate our code of conduct.

He is the cooler for a week.

Insults ruin critical discussion.  I won't have it.

No argument from me.

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#23
I deleted three posts from TDOS, each one more insulting than the last.  Insulting other Diners violate our code of conduct.

He is the cooler for a week.

Insults ruin critical discussion.  I won't have it.
#24
Felon news / Night of the Long Knives
Last post by K-Dog - Jun 06, 2025, 01:19 PM
Trump is on the left, Elon is on the right.

Maybe the historical parallel is stretched—but I don't care. I'm having fun. And I'm not alone. Many see the eerie echoes between Trump's rise and 1930s Germany. The speed at which America is hurtling toward authoritarianism does rhyme with that dark decade.

Many are looking at the Trump's Nazi rhyme, I am not alone in this.  The speed at which America is careening towards tyranny does have a German 1930s' rhyme. 

Parallels are many.

But here's the thing: , it was not ever just Hitler.  Himmler was the cretin who engineered the 'final solution'.  Goering and Goebbels pushed their own twisted agendas. The Nazi inner circle was a rogues' gallery of sociopaths, all bankrolled by capitalists who enabled their madness.

This time around it is not just about Trump, like it should not ever be just about Hitler.  Trump has a new inner circle of sociopathic villains this second time around.  Things are moving fast.  Capitalists are financing every penny of this new madness.

Core Objectives

Trump's inner circle is centralizing power in the executive branch advancing a far-right agenda through four pillars.

A 920-page "Mandate for Leadership" to gut federal agencies.
A LinkedIn-style system to vet loyalists for key posts.
A training academy to indoctrinate appointees.
A 180-day plan to lock in radical executive actions.

So while everyone is distracted by the theater, democracy dies.  Replaced by fascist technique.  Democracy is being dismantled with bureaucratic precision.


#25
Felon news / Trump will fall when consequen...
Last post by K-Dog - Jun 06, 2025, 12:57 PM
Attorney General Pam Bondi is accused of "serious professional misconduct" in a Florida Bar complaint, the Miami Herald reported Thursday.

Bondi's record as the head of the Justice Department is being slammed by close to 70 law professors, attorneys and former Florida Supreme Court justices via a Florida Bar ethics complaint filed Thursday, according to the Herald.

70+ Legal Experts Accuse Pam Bondi of 'Serious Professional Misconduct

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She covered up for Trump, and now that everything comes out dominoes may fall.


 









Trump will only fall when consequences come to his minions.



#26
Tech is always to the rescue / - The endless persuit of MOR...
Last post by RE - Jun 05, 2025, 01:37 PM
Quote from: TDoS on Jun 05, 2025, 08:00 AMOh just PLEASE. Again...first the windup, and then full blown assignment as to who and what I am, and how I think.

Who and what you are and how you think is clear as a bell to anyone with critical thinking skills who can read the english language.  After it's read and digested for its meaning as a service to other readers who might be confused by ambiguous language and implied subtext you deny it, but the denials are implausible.  It's a kind of wealth apologetics as flawed in its objectives and method as Christian apologetics is for the religion.  In the future, when you deny the meaning of something you wrote, it will be treated as a violation of the CoC.  Complaining about this will also be treated as such.

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#27
QuoteI didn't even HINT at 'everybody does it

Bullshit, your third grade reference can't mean anything else.  Clear normalization.  But perhaps everyone else knows this but you.

Americans are paid at subsistence levels. From 1979 to 2021, net American productivity rose by 64.6%, yet hourly compensation increased only by 17.3%.  This 3:1 ratio hardly keeps up with inflation.  Living standards have actually fallen, but rich useless eaters are as well off as they were back in the days of the Gilded Age.  This decoupling of wage and productivity growth demonstrates Uncle Karl's ideas about surplus extraction.  Americans are paid at subsistence levels.  Being that Americans are on on top of the imperialist pyramid, it is a comfortable subsistence.  But it is also one paycheck away from total misery.

TDoS wears growing up poor in a mining town as a badge of honor and claims capitalism is natural.  Perhaps TDoS can explain if capitalism is 'human nature, and 'natural' then why did it take company towns, strikebreakers, and child labor to enforce it? 'Natural' systems don't need Pinkerton muscle, and scab labor to survive.

Name one 'natural' system that depends on Pinkertons murdering union organizers to survive.
#28
Tech is always to the rescue / - The endless persuit of MOR...
Last post by TDoS - Jun 05, 2025, 08:00 AM
Quote from: K-Dog on Jun 05, 2025, 06:35 AM
QuoteYou do this thing....plug in my username as a target and assign all your anti-capitalist irritation to it.

Nobody makes you come here, but I could be wrong about that.  Who does?

Notice the structure of the ask. "Nobody makes you come here"....quite correct...."but I could be wrong". But you aren't. And then the presumption that someone does, negating the apparent honest ask of the first 5 words.

A transition from a statement that is accurate, to uncertainty, to outright "well gee I didn't mean what I said at all". In 14 words.

A wonderful demonstration of why I asked exactly the question in the quote you referenced. And then completely ignored.

I was just asking why your ire is pointed at me, in terms of anti-capitalist irritation. I would understand if your answer was "because you are a capitalist!" and with your different political leanings that would make perfect sense. I suck because I lean capitalist. But you can't even bring yourself to just blurt that out. Why?

Were you always working class man aware in terms of your life? Or did this political uber-alles perspective come about later?

Quote from: K-Dog
QuoteYour indignation over American rich screwing over the poor is something you've known since when? We were taught about robber barons in the 3rd grade American history in the old church converted into a little coal towns 3rd-4th grade school house.

"Everybody does it" isn't a defense.  It's a confession. You learned about the robber barons in 3rd grade?

I didn't even HINT at "everybody does it". Again, you assign something to me that wasn't written or implied. The quote referenced was just me acknowledging that in American history the rich screwing over the poor has a long history. It isn't new. And yes, while the tiny church turned school house in a pipsqueak coal town wasn't much, there were books and basic learning (admittedly I was a book junkie since I learned to read, so I might have been ahead of the curve as it were in my learning at the time). That such wealth existed was fascinating. 

Quote from: K-DogThis means you've had decades to figure out that exploitation doesn't excuse more exploitation.
This means I've had decades to develop my own political leanings, which don't happen to resemble yours. All people who don't agree with your politics by definition the enemy? A "my way or the highway" type of thing?

So when did you figure out that exploitation exists? Was it local experience, history books, or only after you got older and into the EE business?

Quote from: K-DogAccepting theft and cruelty because it's old news doesn't make you insightful, it makes you complicit.
See..you are so far down this self-referential schema that I don't even know what to say. Who said I accept theft and cruelty? Who DOESN'T recognize that man has been shitty to man in far more ways than just politics and money since the first biped clubbed another to death for a female with a heavy wooden club?

And does knowing this history of species somehow mean I think it is a great idea? Says who? You are outraged at a basic human behavior going on at least since the Pharoahs were ruling Egypt, and pretending somehow that I think it is just great! As opposed to what it is....a clinical acceptance of the human condition that certainly should be changed.

And doesn't appear to have a solution yet.


Quote from: K-DogFraming my indignation as naïve or out-of-touch with reality is what bullies do.  Your attack tries to shame anyone who dares call out corruption.
I have no IDEA where you indignation or naivet comes from...THAT IS WHY I HAVE BEEN ASKING WHERE IT COMES FROM. I don't presume you were BORN thinking Marx had the answers to the ills of America, I have noted that you seem to avoid any response to a basic observation that the ways Marx's ideas were put into use didn't seem to cure the underlying issues you detail frequently.

And what ATTACK? Asking questions? My ingrained talent is it is easy for me to be an observer with zero give a fucks about a topic....and when asked to investigate a topic....discover solutions or answers or new processes to solve a problem. It isn't an ATTACK to disagree with someone...it is just a different perspective.

Quote from: K-DogYou were not taught Robber-Baron history to accept injustice.  You were taught robber baron history so you'd recognize it, with the hope you would resist it. But you twisted your lesson into apathy, and a laziness that wants to normalize, and declare  bullshit delicious.

Oh just PLEASE. Again...first the windup, and then full blown assignment as to who and what I am, and how I think.
#29
QuoteYou do this thing....plug in my username as a target and assign all your anti-capitalist irritation to it.

Nobody makes you come here, but I could be wrong about that.  Who does?

QuoteYour indignation over American rich screwing over the poor is something you've known since when? We were taught about robber barons in the 3rd grade American history in the old church converted into a little coal towns 3rd-4th grade school house.

"Everybody does it" isn't a defense.  It's a confession. You learned about the robber barons in 3rd grade?

This means you've had decades to figure out that exploitation doesn't excuse more exploitation.
Accepting theft and cruelty because it's old news doesn't make you insightful, it makes you complicit.  Framing my indignation as naïve or out-of-touch with reality is what bullies do.  Your attack tries to shame anyone who dares call out corruption.

You were not taught Robber-Baron history to accept injustice.  You were taught robber baron history so you'd recognize it, with the hope you would resist it. But you twisted your lesson into apathy, and a laziness that wants to normalize, and declare  bullshit delicious.







You be like Alex who upon learning of the scourge of Christ, wants a whip.
#30
Tech is always to the rescue / - The endless persuit of MOR...
Last post by RE - Jun 05, 2025, 01:53 AM


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