Of course our perspectives are different.  I view the collapse of the FSoA political system as symptomatic of the wider collapse of industrial civilization, you don't.  Given the current trajectory of all the salient indicators of falling birthrate, increasing debt, aging populations, increasing homelessness, increasing military conflicts and decreasing per capita energy consumption and no indication any of the trends will change in the next 30 years at least, likelihood is that conditions will continue to worsen rather than improve.  Since I'll be dead after that I won't be affected by changes that come later, though I suspect they will continue to worsen into the next century.

Time will tell.

RE

Quote from: RE on Nov 02, 2025, 05:58 PM* Fucked Up Beyond All Repair/Recognition.

RE

Your definition, and mine, of what "beyond recognition" might mean, or fucked up" even, are relative. I certainly recognize the current political system. And I recognize how it has changed. And can speculate on how to repair it.

Hence my comment. I already knew the words in the abbreviation.

Quoteadvcoates Advocates for Ukraine and Palestinians would be on the same side, as opposed to opposite sides?

They would be on opposite sides, an advocate for the war in Ukraine is down with death as fun and games.  An advocate for Palestine would be advocating for an end to death and destruction.  People dying is not fun and games.

You read it wrong. My intent was clear enough.

Quote from: TDoS on Nov 02, 2025, 11:54 AMJust guessing without any forum background it would seem that advcoates for Ukraine and Palestinians would be on the same side, as opposed to opposite sides?

Unlikely.  Ukraine and Israel are both Fascist states.

RE

* Fucked Up Beyond All Repair/Recognition.

RE

Quote from: RE on Nov 02, 2025, 01:58 PMKeyboarding out more seemed unnecessary, and I keep things brief these days.

I understand. And how is the healing progressing?

Quote from: REThere's enough information in the public record to deduce that the FSoA political system is FUBAR.

Dependent upon one's definition of FUBAR, ok. I am certainly not happy with current events any better than you and K-Dog I imagine, but I don't assign some of the long term, or as severe, interpretations as you and K-Dog do.

Quote from: REI don't need to be pals with a CONgress Critter to figure this out. I see no perspective disadvantage.
RE

Perspective on societal issues requires no relationship of any kind with Congresss critters. But it strikes me that any perspective, on most any topic, is improved with more information, the right kinds of information sources, understandings one's own bias on the topic, the ability to think critically and logically to cut through the ever growing noise to signal ratio online, etc etc.

Quote from: TDoS on Nov 02, 2025, 10:45 AM

Quote from: RE on Nov 02, 2025, 03:49 AMWhat is the point here?
RE

Apparently, that you couldn't come up with a response to the 3 paragraphs that preceeded the one you decided to  respond to.

There's enough information in the public record to deduce

How about if it is phrased as a simple question?

What is the perspective disadvantage to someone with zero ability to ground truth the veracity of the information flowing to them throufh the internet?

Keyboarding out more seemed unnecessary, and I keep things brief these days.  There's enough information in the public record to deduce that the FSoA political system is FUBAR. I don't need to be pals with a CONgress Critter to figure this out. I see no perspective disadvantage.

RE

Quote from: K-Dog on Nov 02, 2025, 10:55 AMAnybody who advocates for aid to Ukraine has blood on their hands.  If you do, you probably hate Palestinians too.

So...guilt by association for starters? (being unaware of the anti-Ukraine back story) and then a correlation presented as a given? Again, undoubtely a backstory of some sort.

So....do I get banned for asking about the backstories and correlations, or do I just carnac them and hope for the best?

Just guessing without any forum background it would seem that advcoates for Ukraine and Palestinians would be on the same side, as opposed to opposite sides?

OLATUNANDER.SUBSTACK.COM • 2024-12-09

How will the Ukraine War end?

Oreshnik missile warheads hitting a Dnipro defence industry plant in Ukraine on 21 November 2024. This missile was not armed with explosives. It hit the target at a speed of 3 km per second (at a temperature of 4000 degrees Celsius). It is a kinetic energy weapon (KEW) possibly comparable to a very small nuclear bomb.


An interesting article.  So many have died, and for nothing.  Anybody who advocates for aid to Ukraine has blood on their hands.  If you do, you probably hate Palestinians too.  And that sort of rhymes.

Quote from: RE on Nov 02, 2025, 03:49 AMWhat is the point here?
RE

Apparently, that you couldn't come up with a response to the 3 paragraphs that preceeded the one you decided to  respond to.

How about if it is phrased as a simple question?

What is the perspective disadvantage to someone with zero ability to ground truth the veracity of the information flowing to them throufh the internet?