Quote from: RE on May 21, 2024, 09:37 AMNo doubt, there are deadbeat, ne'er-do-well bums in every generation who never move out and remain as parasite on their parents for their entire lives, not just in their 20s.  This article isn't about them.  It's about 20 somethings who went to college, have jobs and STILL can't afford to move out.

RE

I understand what you are saying but I have a dimmer view of human nature than you do so I do not agree.  The average person is about as creative as a 180 lb parrot.  Monkey see, monkey do defines human behavior.  Deadbeat, ne'er-do-well bums now hide in plain sight in a way which would have been intolerable in the past.

Thrill seeking is a mark of the ne'er-do-well, and America society in general has been reduced to thrill seeking.  Thrill seeking does not have to be as dramatic as parachuting out of airplanes.  It can be as simple as keeping a bar stool warm every night.  It can be as simple as having a 'bucket list'.  It is endless pursuit of pleasure and avoidance of responsibility.  It is consumerism.  I am what I use, and the experiences I have.  That is all I am.  A cog in a machine that defecates.

In this post I point no fingers at the ne'er-do-well.  Society in general has lost its way and the sad fact is most people, all of us at some time, need leaders.

People need structure.  It is a fact and some need more structure than others.  If the social goal is to live no differently than the ne'er-do-well at the end of life, more of the ne'er-do-well we shall have.  People copy, it is what people do.  Give them bad shit to copy and that is exactly what they will do.

Give them a bad leader and they follow.

Adolph before he fell with his fellow misfits was a total slacker who never had a job.  All he could do was couch surf.  As fate would have it, his talent as a speaker made him spokesman for a movement.  He never actually did any work himself.  Hitler wrote Mein Kampf with a guidance and help under pressure.  The way Trump would write a book.  The following photos show Hitler in prison when he told 'his story'.  Hitler was not capable of controlling himself enough to write Mein Kampf by himself.  He had to be kept on track.

 

Prison was a well kept apartment with visitors.  He was given a typewriter and shown how to use it.  Hitler was in truth, a deranged slacker with mental issues.  A magnet that attracted other deranged, with unfortunately far more actual talent.

Talent enough to sell a promise.  It was propaganda.  German factories were tooled for the military.  The 'people's car' was propaganda.

No German family would ever buy one.  Collapse came first, but that is not really the half of it.  The NAZI three ring circus was built on credit and the only way to not pay the bill was to start a war.  The bill was coming due. 
     The parallel money system which fueled military build up (and stimulated the economy) required redemption or the industrialists would not continue to welcome Nazi script which could only be used for business purposes.  Propaganda hid the working poor.  The war had to be started before everything was in place.  Before the NAZI Ponzi was exposed.  Hitler planned war, but Hitler's economic ponzi scheme really decided that war had to start when it did.

My NAZI shit takes the discussion in a different direction.  Returning to the slacker issue.  I go back to your original article.  Your original article ignores the corrosive effects of the situation in the same way that the corrosive effects of isolation on school age children during COVID was ignored.  We live in a petri-dish that produces dispossessed people by the millions.  Some shoot up schools if you do not believe me.  An article that only talks about economics regarding a social situation is brain dead.  Let that be your guide.