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Last post by TDoS - Sep 03, 2026, 01:39 PMQuote from: K-DogHe means this Oceania
K-Dog wins the prize! Geez, I thought us folks who don't like being censored but will happily do it to others when given the opportunity would know this hands down! It is straight from an really old playbook!
#12
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Last post by TDoS - Sep 03, 2026, 01:35 PMQuote from: RE on Sep 03, 2026, 12:23 PMQuote from: TDoS on Sep 03, 2026, 08:12 AMVisions of Oceania abound.
Which region?
Regions of Oceania
Australasia: Includes Australia and New Zealand.
Melanesia: Includes Papua New Guinea, Fiji, an the Solomon Islands.
Micronesia: Includes Guam, Kiribati, and Palau.
Polynesia: Includes Samoa, Tonga, and Hawaii.
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Orwells, obviously.Come on folks, we're talking classics here.
Political geography of Nineteen Eighty-Four
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The three fictional superstates of the dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four are Oceania, Eurasia, and Eastasia.
In George Orwell's 1949 dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, the world is divided into three superstates: Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia, which are all fighting each other in a perpetual war in a disputed area mostly located around the equator. All that Oceania's citizens know about the world is whatever the Party wants them to know, so how the world evolved into the three states is unknown; and it is also unknown to the reader whether they actually exist in the novel's reality, or whether they are a storyline invented by the Party to advance social control.
#13
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Last post by RE - Sep 03, 2026, 12:42 PMOrwell's novels were very prescient. It just took a little longer to get there than he imagined. Timelines on predicting the future can be tricky. He was about 40 years early.
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#14
War / US and Israel carrying out str...
Last post by RE - Sep 03, 2026, 12:35 PMQuote from: TDoS on Sep 03, 2026, 08:03 AMQuote from: K-Dog on Sep 03, 2026, 06:23 AMQuoteI presume that this statement displays your disgust with bombings and American power projection regardless of which head of which party happens to be doing the bombing?
True that. And people not giving a shit that we have a serial killer running the country only turns up my disgust knob.
Well, we've had serial killers doing it before, maybe it is just oneof those oldschool American traditions? Which Presidents knocked off the most Natives do you think? Andrew Jackson maybe? Founder and member of the modern Democratic Party that one.
As I pointed out, which political party they come from is generally irrelevant, since they don't run the real show anyhow. The Democrats have better ideals though, particularly the Democratic Socialists. They just don't live up to the ideals. The Repugnants are morally bankrupt, and live up to that.
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#15
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Last post by K-Dog - Sep 03, 2026, 12:32 PMQuoteAt this moment, for example, in 1984 (if it was 1984), Oceania was at war with Eurasia and in alliance with Eastasia. In no public or private utterance was it ever admitted that the three powers had at any time been grouped along different lines. Actually, as Winston well knew, it was only four years since Oceania had been at war with Eastasia and in alliance with Eurasia. But that was merely a piece of furtive knowledge which he happened to possess because his memory was not satisfactorily under control.
He means this Oceania
#16
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Last post by K-Dog - Sep 03, 2026, 12:27 PMQuote from: TDoS on Sep 03, 2026, 08:03 AMWell, we've had serial killers doing it before, maybe it is just oneof those oldschool American traditions? Which Presidents knocked off the most Natives do you think? Andrew Jackson maybe? Founder and member of the modern Democratic Party that one.
There is a definite rhyme between Jackson and Trump. My brain tries to compare them frequently to find a link. I want to trurn it off. But while both are evil's product of messed up early years, Jackson was not an incompetent fool as Trump certainly is. And with Trump, derangement has more of a biological basis.
#17
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Last post by RE - Sep 03, 2026, 12:23 PMQuote from: TDoS on Sep 03, 2026, 08:12 AMQuote from: REIt has always been the position of the Diner that the entire Political System of the FSoA is thoroughly corrupt and that the political parties, the politicians and elections are Window Dressing designed to give the Illusion the general population controls how the country is governed...
When you say it like that it just gives me the SHIVERS on its definitive perspective on the matter. Visions of Oceania abound.
Which region?
Regions of Oceania
Australasia: Includes Australia and New Zealand.
Melanesia: Includes Papua New Guinea, Fiji, and the Solomon Islands.
Micronesia: Includes Guam, Kiribati, and Palau.
Polynesia: Includes Samoa, Tonga, and Hawaii.
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#18
American Socialism / Democratic Socialism, Good, Ba...
Last post by TDoS - Sep 03, 2026, 08:44 AMArticle on what appears to be a popular political opinion around here.
Not MY opinion mind you, but what appears to be a reasonable 3rd parties. Reasonable to a professional scientist anyway, folks paid to examine a wide range of opinions or ideas on a topic before making an informed and dispassionate decision on its quality.
USATODAY.COM • 2026-09-03
Democratic socialists and MAGA share a dangerous flaw
Democratic socialists and MAGA nationalists both advocate sweeping government economic control which historically causes stagnation shortages and democratic erosion as seen in Cuba Venezuela and Soviet Union examples.
Not MY opinion mind you, but what appears to be a reasonable 3rd parties. Reasonable to a professional scientist anyway, folks paid to examine a wide range of opinions or ideas on a topic before making an informed and dispassionate decision on its quality.
Democratic socialists and MAGA share a dangerous flaw
Democratic socialists and MAGA nationalists both advocate sweeping government economic control which historically causes stagnation shortages and democratic erosion as seen in Cuba Venezuela and Soviet Union examples.
#19
War / US and Israel carrying out str...
Last post by TDoS - Sep 03, 2026, 08:12 AMQuote from: REIt has always been the position of the Diner that the entire Political System of the FSoA is thoroughly corrupt and that the political parties, the politicians and elections are Window Dressing designed to give the Illusion the general population controls how the country is governed...
When you say it like that it just gives me the SHIVERS on its definitive perspective on the matter. Visions of Oceania abound.
#20
War / US and Israel carrying out str...
Last post by TDoS - Sep 03, 2026, 08:03 AMQuote from: K-Dog on Sep 03, 2026, 06:23 AMQuoteI presume that this statement displays your disgust with bombings and American power projection regardless of which head of which party happens to be doing the bombing?
True that. And people not giving a shit that we have a serial killer running the country only turns up my disgust knob.
Well, we've had serial killers doing it before, maybe it is just oneof those oldschool American traditions? Which Presidents knocked off the most Natives do you think? Andrew Jackson maybe? Founder and member of the modern Democratic Party that one.