Quote from: Fantasy Girl on Mar 10, 2025, 02:29 PMI think we have a new troll !

Reminiscent of one with only one V in their name.

By this logic, people are all atheist because they have dogs who don't believe in gods.

I thought he was saying how LTG is received, rather than his own opinion on it.

None of these new active topics are easy to find. I came across this by accident trying to revisit the last one I posted in, which I didn't find. Is it not possible to have the topics /threads listed in order of most recent activity?

Cross off Freedom of the Press along with Right to Assembly and Birthright Citizenship.  You have Free Speech as long as you support Trump though.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvge4l109r3o

Add deportations without Due Process and arrests and detention without criminal charges.

Time to go international!  Land the Marines on the beaches of Greenland!  Bomb Montreal back to the Stone Age!  Make Amerika Great Again!

Trump moves to close down Voice of America

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvge4l109r3o

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Quote from: K-Dog on May 17, 2024, 03:51 PMThe New Republic contends we do not have Fascism now, but that Trump will bring it.  I can't agree.  We already have fascism.  Our defense industry controls the state.  Trump did not start that, and we have a double dip of genocide, war, and exploitation right now.  All with Trump gone.

But if we are getting into sophomoric role play then if Trump gets to be Hitler I want to be Albert Speer.  And if their are allegations of slavery in my factories I will see...

I have contemplated matching up our current actors to their historical counterparts.  I was thinking Elon matches up with Albert Speer for a while, but perhaps this is a better match.

Quote from: Goldernen Oxernen on Mar 16, 2025, 03:05 AMBitcoin was 70$ when my alterego told us it was the future.  investing 400$ then would be a million now. never too late..

Sure.  And if you invested in Amazon with Nick Hanauer you would be a Billionaire.  Or Google in 1996.  etc etc etc.

QuoteIm not 100% sure, but i think Elon may have been born a ♀️ woman. Those people are connected to the super wealthy to begin with. Family backgrounds are just cover stories.

Doubt he was born as a woman.  He has 13 kids.  Trannies are sterile.

Billionaires generally come from upper class families who got start up capital from dad like Bill Gates, Elon and Trump.  That + good connections gets you in the door with Investment bankers who set up IPOs.

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Quote from: RE on Mar 16, 2025, 02:12 AM

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 15, 2025, 05:15 PMHow does a 401k fit into your world of "work"? It isn't obvious, but aren't market investments, including purchasing real estate, fair game for everyone, including the $30/hr working man?

No.  At $30/hr there isn't enough surplus income to effectively invest in RE or the SM.  It translates to $50K/yr, which is below the median household income.  If you are a frugal person you can just about live on the median income and save a little for emergencies and medical bills.

15 years ago when I left the working world I was making $40K, the median income at the time.  I am very frugal and was able to save around $3K/yr.   If you extrapolate over 30 years of saving $300/mo invested with an average ROI of 7%/yr.  That gives you $500K in assets.  Retire, 7% gets you a retirement income of $35K.  You might just squeak by with this if you never have a big medical bill or floods, fire, tornado and your kid didn't need braces or need some help with college tuition.  This also assumes a very good average ROI.   You don't get 7% on T-bills or CDs, you need some riskier investments in your poortfolio to get there.

Realistically these days, you need to be making 6 figures before you have enough surplus to do investing.  Frankly it takes 6 figures just to afford that 1 big investment, your McMansion.  Plus the first 5 years you're not saving for retirement, you're saving for the down payment.  My general rule is that whatever the median income is, you need to make about double that to join the Investor Class.

Social Security is a means to insure the society as much as the individual.  Prior to the invention of such systems by Otto von Bismark, the cities were full of beggars who either died or got stuffed into debtors prisons.  Younger people could work faster at lower wages, so by the time they hit 60 with no job security they were on the street.  It's not an investment system to make people rich, it's society's insurance against having impoverished old people begging on the street.  That's currently all it does, for a comfortable retirement you need ADDITIONAL sources of income like Pensions & 401Ks.  You have to be a pretty high earner through most of your life to achieve that.

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Bitcoin was 70$ when my alterego told us it was the future.  investing 400$ then would be a million now. never too late..

Im not 100% sure, but i think Elon may have been born a ♀️ woman. Those people are connected to the super wealthy to begin with. Family backgrounds are just cover stories.

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 15, 2025, 05:15 PMHow does a 401k fit into your world of "work"? It isn't obvious, but aren't market investments, including purchasing real estate, fair game for everyone, including the $30/hr working man?

No.  At $30/hr there isn't enough surplus income to effectively invest in RE or the SM.  It translates to $50K/yr, which is below the median household income.  If you are a frugal person you can just about live on the median income and save a little for emergencies and medical bills.

15 years ago when I left the working world I was making $40K, the median income at the time.  I am very frugal and was able to save around $3K/yr.   If you extrapolate over 30 years of saving $300/mo invested with an average ROI of 7%/yr.  That gives you $500K in assets.  Retire, 7% gets you a retirement income of $35K.  You might just squeak by with this if you never have a big medical bill or floods, fire, tornado and your kid didn't need braces or need some help with college tuition.  This also assumes a very good average ROI.   You don't get 7% on T-bills or CDs, you need some riskier investments in your poortfolio to get there.

Realistically these days, you need to be making 6 figures before you have enough surplus to do investing.  Frankly it takes 6 figures just to afford that 1 big investment, your McMansion.  Plus the first 5 years you're not saving for retirement, you're saving for the down payment.  My general rule is that whatever the median income is, you need to make about double that to join the Investor Class.

Social Security is a means to insure the society as much as the individual.  Prior to the invention of such systems by Otto von Bismark, the cities were full of beggars who either died or got stuffed into debtors prisons.  Younger people could work faster at lower wages, so by the time they hit 60 with no job security they were on the street.  It's not an investment system to make people rich, it's society's insurance against having impoverished old people begging on the street.  That's currently all it does, for a comfortable retirement you need ADDITIONAL sources of income like Pensions & 401Ks.  You have to be a pretty high earner through most of your life to achieve that.

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Quote from: RE on Mar 15, 2025, 06:39 PM

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 15, 2025, 05:15 PMDon't recall ever ranting about privilege, don't ever recall mentioning how little of that I ever was born with or grew along the way

You must have forgot to take your Alzheimer's meds.  Every time you talk about my fictional silver spoon you regale us with your poverty filled childhood.

Far as the utility of your own website goes, no cooler there.  Off you go.

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And my silver spoon means I can pay for my coffee and croissant on the way to work in only twenty minutes after I get there.  But that does not stop him from bringing up the expensive carz he alleges I have.

If you did not have that this would do:

QuoteHow does a 401k fit into your world of "work"? It isn't obvious, but aren't market investments, including purchasing real estate, fair game for everyone, including the $30/hr working man?

Being critical of normal behavior would have done.  Reactionaries are always trying to confuse obvious issues.  Here the reactionary is exceptionally diabolical. Social security should be strong enough to make 401Ks a relic, it is an inferior retirement instrument in an enlightened socialist society.  But there is a mental trick to flip the tables at play.  Their failure as reactionaries to make the distinction between personal and private property is their stock and trade.  Trying to always put the words 'all owning property bad' in our mouths.  That is why he brings it up.  The hope is that I get pissed off and go off on a rant.  Portray myself as irrational.  Instead of:

Part of a strong social program should be allowing elective deductions with a 5% rate backed by the government.  Mention of real-estate and such you also mentioned to confuse the issue.  A working man MUST (it is a fucking right) be able to preserve some of his/hers own dead labor in an investment.  Key being his/her/it's OWN dead labor, that would earn a government backed 5% should I be king.  Society rewarding responsible behavior.  I'm down with it.

* As I toil at my McJob with the brainpower to have figured out profit sharing could double my wage in a heartbeat, I recall that I work at the end of a third world supply chain where the number of people getting screwed are countless.  I might actually be getting a fair shake if it were all balanced out.  I might be the mathematical anomaly.  Doin ok with a reasonable chance of passing through the eye of the needle.

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 15, 2025, 05:15 PMDon't recall ever ranting about privilege, don't ever recall mentioning how little of that I ever was born with or grew along the way

You must have forgot to take your Alzheimer's meds.  Every time you talk about my fictional silver spoon you regale us with your poverty filled childhood.

Far as the utility of your own website goes, no cooler there.  Off you go.

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Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 08, 2025, 02:35 PMI have had enough of his insulting shit.  Enjoy your week off TDOS.  I should altogether ban your ass permanently.  You should start your own website.

Goodness...why? What use would a website be to me? 

Quote from: K-DogWhite racist cracker who worships the divine rite of kings.

How rude! Sure...I was born into a crackerhood, but where do you get racist? I always thought I was an indiscriminate fact checking subject matter expert ex-hilljack and NONE of that ever involves race or gender or age or DEI category, etc etc.

Quote from: K-DogYou can rant about how privilege is the natural order of the universe, and how you deserve to be one of the privileged few.

Don't recall ever ranting about privilege, don't ever recall mentioning how little of that I ever was born with or grew along the way, (and according to the new forum rules I signed after my most recent comeback) can you quote me please where I said that it is the natural order of the universe?

And much like your sensitivity, I don't DESERVE what I have, like you I EARNED it. You, me and RE, we earned our current place in the world, working men all.

Quote from: K-DogElon has not earned shit, he has created nothing of value.

Would you care to define "value" as you see it? Because that isn't the same word as "work" which you defined roughly as "$30/hour for XX decades".

How does a 401k fit into your world of "work"? It isn't obvious, but aren't market investments, including purchasing real estate, fair game for everyone, including the $30/hr working man?

Dead guys don't count.  Bill Shatner is the only one of those three still taking in air. 

He is also Canadian and worried about being deported.  I'd say there is a physical resemblance too.    Resemblance in height and weight.  The nose is different.



* Nightmare at 20,000 Feet, October 11, 1963, William Shatner played Robert Wilson.