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EZ way to start the war without going to CONgress.  All Trumpolini has to do is sic the Israeli Attack Dog on Iran with a phone call.  They are always happy to oblige and target a few more Towel Head schools and hospitals.

What kind of response will the Ayatollah come up with?  How long will this one go on?  How high can they drive up the price of oil?

RE

QuoteU.S. and Israeli government statements framed the offensive as necessary to neutralise imminent threats posed by Iran's military and nuclear infrastructure.

Which goes to show, all people need is a story.  It does not have to make sense.

Evil is as evil does.

I am not aware of Khamenei killing or mutilating any Americans.  Are you?

Accepting the diarrhea that comes out of Trump's mouth makes you look stupid.

Will this be enough to finally get the MAGA Morons to turn on their Fearless Fuehrer and call for an Impeachment?

RE

Quote from: RE on Mar 01, 2026, 08:36 PMWill this be enough to finally get the MAGA Morons to turn on their Fearless Fuehrer and call for an Impeachment?

RE

Learned helplessness.  Repeated exposure to uncontrollable harm leads a person to feel escape is impossible, even when options exist.  I would not bet on the MAGA morons coming to their senses yet.  If ever.

🍿 But, this move may be so unpopular that Trump may finally have cooked his own goose.  We shall see.

Gas lines are in our future.  If you do not think so, can you argue gas is not going to skyrocket in price?

A year in office and Trump fucks the world.

If Trump is not stopped there will be consequences.  Fascism has a shelf life.

 

We don't know what special shit Trump's adventurism will bring, but if you haven't figured it out by now, Trump never stops bringing shit.  Bringing shit is what Trump does.  So shit it will surely be.  And at the end Trump will be dead, and America will be left with his consequences.

Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 02, 2026, 07:57 PMGas lines are in our future.  If you do not think so, can you argue gas is not going to skyrocket in price?

Gas lines...and rationing...is in our past as well. Anyone in PA during global peak oil in 1979 and the ensuing rationing knows this.

Gas lines aren't in my future. Momma didn't raise no fool, and I haven't forgotten that gas rationing long ago.

I recommend a new one of these for everyone.

I got mine for slightly more than half the money that K-Dog spends on some eco-friendly heat pump. Gas lines...please....let them eat cake.

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When the food prices skyrocket, Trumpolini's popularity will plummet.

RE

Plus it's costing $2B/day!

RE

Can U spell R-E-C-E-S-S-I-O-N?  Triple digit Oil prices will send the economy into a Black Hole.  Ugly is on the horizon.

RE

Quote from: RE on Mar 06, 2026, 04:38 PMCan U spell R-E-C-E-S-S-I-O-N?  Triple digit Oil prices will send the economy into a Black Hole.  Ugly is on the horizon.

RE

Is this really what collapse and doom has been reduced to? Recession? Cost of living increases?

After having all sorts of other dooms thoroughly discredited all along the way this century, is this really all we've got left? Recession? Political disagreements? I at least get the political disagreements, for all the complaining about the horrors of the neocons, the Oligarchs have certainly unleashed idiots-R-us in a big way this time. As far as idiots-R-us being doom...well...maybe all that IS left is pretending recessions are the outcome of idiots in charge. Be they Republicrat or Democan. It isn't as though any other group has been able to gain traction against the Oligarchs.

Bombing video games are not enough.  1st Person Shooter games will really rev up support with the Incels.

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The war may not last long, the effects on the oil market however will be quite long lasting.  Doubtful Iran gets back to its pre-war production levels anytime soon, and doubtful shipping insurance costs through the Straight of Hormuz will drop much either.  More sabotage likely throughout the region.

Things will get quite messy.

RE

Quote from: RE on Mar 09, 2026, 02:52 AM

BUSINESSINSIDER.COM • 2026-03-08

Oil passes $100 a barrel as US energy secretary says Iran won't be a 'long-term war'

Oil prices surpassed $100 a barrel on Sunday. The US energy secretary is working to reassure Americans that high gas prices won't last. Chris Wright said the conflict in Iran is a "temporary movement," rather than a "long-term war."

The war may not last long, the effects on the oil market however will be quite long lasting.  Doubtful Iran gets back to its pre-war production levels anytime soon, and doubtful shipping insurance costs through the Straight of Hormuz will drop much either.  More sabotage likely throughout the region.

Things will get quite messy.
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RE

Indeed. Who knows what will happen with oil at 3077400 a barrel!

If it lasts a month, it might be a recession.  If it lasts 6 months, kiss the economy goodbye.

RE

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 09, 2026, 04:39 AMIndeed. Who knows what will happen with oil at 3077400 a barrel!

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DOOMSDAY 4 OIL!😁😁😁

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The thing is, even if Trumpolini declared "Victory" and sent home the grunts, the Straight won't be any safer.  The only way to  do that would be to put 100K boots on the ground and hold all the land along the coast.  It's almost certain as soon as ships start moving through, at least 1 will get hit.  If it's an LNG tanker, the explosion will be Hollywood spectacular.

With the Kuwaitis and Omanis now starting to shut in wells, the supply interuption will at least be months long.  So much for Trumps quicky done.  In 3 months, you'll have RREAL shortages in fertilizer right in time for growing season.

Leave it to Trump to speed up collapse by orders of magnitude.

RE

Quote from: RE on Mar 10, 2026, 09:30 AMLeave it to Trump to speed up collapse by orders of magnitude.
RE

Unless of course the usual happens. Many collapses are called...still waiting around for one to be chosen. <yawn>

Quote from: REDOOMSDAY 4 OIL!😁😁😁

RE

I remember the early 80's, and the bumper stickers on Texan's trucks, "Drive Faster, Freeze A Yankee".

"Doomsday For Oil Consumers" might be better...some drilling folks and oil and gas companies will be quite profitable I imagine. Things will get more expensive regardless of oil prices, as things are wont to do.

Remember the last time it was the Doomsday for oil? 1979is still my favorite. The modern peak oilers didn't have nuttin compared to that global peak oil.

Quote"I don't think they have any realistic endgame in their mind," he added. "I think they are aimless."

People thinking they are fulfilling a biblical prophesy are not big on endgames.  They don't need no stinkin endgame.

Hell would have frozen over before I could have ever voted for this racist moron who can't read.  I wish more of you could say the same.  Now if you ever helped him your inattention to detail will mean millions will die.  And that's on you.  Did you think that we live in Disneyland so the limits of the universe do not apply in your magic kingdom of America.  I think you do. 

The tragic thing is I know you will do it again.  You will vote for the same kind of fool.

And all the things that the big black book says are going to happen are not going to happen.  Not a single one of them.  Fairy tails written for other purposes thousands of years ago do not define reality.  That black book is no reason to let madmen rhyme, but sadly 30% think poetry translated through multiple languages be magically real.  Like it was the word of god or something.  And for that people must die.

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 10, 2026, 04:04 PMRemember the last time it was the Doomsday for oil? 1979is still my favorite. The modern peak oilers didn't have nuttin compared to that global peak oil.

It's the same collapse.  It just has ebbs and flows.  '79 was an earlier stage with half the world current population and a lot more cheap oil still remaining.  This round is likely to be a bit tougher.  We'll know in a few months I think.

RE

Quote from: RE on Mar 10, 2026, 05:54 PM

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 10, 2026, 04:04 PMRemember the last time it was the Doomsday for oil? 1979is still my favorite. The modern peak oilers didn't have nuttin compared to that global peak oil.

It's the same collapse.  It just has ebbs and flows.

I am just going by the definition you provided earlier is all. These collapses are tricky things, especially with your good definition.

Quote from: RE'79 was an earlier stage with half the world current population and a lot more cheap oil still remaining.  This round is likely to be a bit tougher.  We'll know in a few months I think.

RE

By 1979 the President had gone on TV and announced that the world would run out of oil by the end of the 80's. The concept hadn't been discredited yet by the internet and hangers on without two neurons to rub together but an urge to collect clicks and likes and whatnot.

In hindsight it certainly seems like a silly collapse meme back then, but it was as real in the moment as the peakers who began playing eeny meeny miney mo with 1990 global peak.

I'm willing to give it a few months before your definition of collapse shows up. Eat, drink and be merry because in a few months....want to make a bet on it happening?

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 10, 2026, 06:31 PMI'm willing to give it a few months before your definition of collapse shows up. Eat, drink and be merry because in a few months....want to make a bet on it happening?

As I recall I posted an AI generated definition which seemed reasonable.  Here's another.

Societal collapse is rarely a single, sudden event; it is often described as a "death from a thousand cuts" involving the gradual erosion of a society's foundations
. Researchers in collapsology and history identify several recurring indicators that a society is losing its resilience and complexity.
1. Political and Institutional Decay
The breakdown of governance and public trust is a primary precursor to collapse:

    Elite Overproduction: A surplus of highly educated or wealthy individuals competing for a limited number of elite positions, leading to intense infighting and factionalism.
    Widespread Corruption: Institutionalized corruption and "extractive institutions" that prioritize the enrichment of a small elite over the needs of the general population.
    Loss of Institutional Faith: A significant decline in public trust in government, religious, and legal institutions.
    Increased Surveillance: Governments may respond to growing unrest by expanding police and surveillance powers to maintain control.

2. Economic Fragility
Economic indicators often signal a society's inability to maintain its own complexity:

    Hyper-Inequality: Extreme wealth gaps where the vast majority of resources are held by a tiny fraction of the population, often leading to social friction and revolution.
    Currency Devaluation and Inflation: Historical examples, such as Rome, saw governments devaluing currency to pay off unsustainable national debts, resulting in rampant inflation.
    Diminishing Returns (EROI): Joseph Tainter and other scholars highlight falling Energy Return on Investment—when the energy (or resources) required to maintain a society's complexity begins to outweigh the benefits.

3. Social and Cultural Fragmentation
The "social glue" that holds a civilization together begins to dissolve:

    Loss of Shared Values: The erosion or intense contesting of core cultural beliefs and ideologies that once provided unity.
    Extreme Polarization: A divided populace where political or social groups are no longer able to find middle ground, often characterized by "scapegoating" and internal strife.
    Decline in Innovation: A stagnation in intellectual and cultural pursuits, often accompanied by a "disinclination for abstract thinking".

4. Environmental and Demographic Stress
Physical limitations can act as "triggering mechanisms" for collapse:

    Resource Depletion: Overexploitation of vital resources (e.g., deforestation, soil exhaustion) beyond sustainable levels.
    Demographic "Busts": Sudden drops in population due to declining birth rates, disease outbreaks (pandemics), or mass migration.
    Inability to Manage Crises: A "critical slowing down" where the society recovers more and more slowly from external shocks like droughts or natural disasters.

5. Historical "Perfect Storms"
Experts like Eric Cline note that while single stressors (like a drought or an invasion) may not cause collapse, a "system collapse" often occurs when three or four such catastrophes happen in quick succession, creating a domino effect from which the society cannot recover.


If you use this definition, collapse is already here.  6 months from now it still will be, just with a range of new problems arising from this poorly thought out piece of geopolitical buffoonery.  I'm sure your ice maker will still work though.

RE

Quote from: RE on Mar 10, 2026, 11:38 PM

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 10, 2026, 06:31 PMI'm willing to give it a few months before your definition of collapse shows up. Eat, drink and be merry because in a few months....want to make a bet on it happening?

As I recall I posted an AI generated definition which seemed reasonable.  Here's another.

Societal collapse is rarely a single, sudden event; it is often described as a "death from a thousand cuts" involving the gradual erosion of a society's foundations
. Researchers in collapsology and history identify several recurring indicators that a society is losing its resilience and complexity.
1. Political and Institutional Decay
The breakdown of governance and public trust is a primary precursor to collapse:

    Elite Overproduction: A surplus of highly educated or wealthy individuals competing for a limited number of elite positions, leading to intense infighting and factionalism.
    Widespread Corruption: Institutionalized corruption and "extractive institutions" that prioritize the enrichment of a small elite over the needs of the general population.
    Loss of Institutional Faith: A significant decline in public trust in government, religious, and legal institutions.
    Increased Surveillance: Governments may respond to growing unrest by expanding police and surveillance powers to maintain control.

2. Economic Fragility
Economic indicators often signal a society's inability to maintain its own complexity:

    Hyper-Inequality: Extreme wealth gaps where the vast majority of resources are held by a tiny fraction of the population, often leading to social friction and revolution.
    Currency Devaluation and Inflation: Historical examples, such as Rome, saw governments devaluing currency to pay off unsustainable national debts, resulting in rampant inflation.
    Diminishing Returns (EROI): Joseph Tainter and other scholars highlight falling Energy Return on Investment—when the energy (or resources) required to maintain a society's complexity begins to outweigh the benefits.

3. Social and Cultural Fragmentation
The "social glue" that holds a civilization together begins to dissolve:

    Loss of Shared Values: The erosion or intense contesting of core cultural beliefs and ideologies that once provided unity.
    Extreme Polarization: A divided populace where political or social groups are no longer able to find middle ground, often characterized by "scapegoating" and internal strife.
    Decline in Innovation: A stagnation in intellectual and cultural pursuits, often accompanied by a "disinclination for abstract thinking".

4. Environmental and Demographic Stress
Physical limitations can act as "triggering mechanisms" for collapse:

    Resource Depletion: Overexploitation of vital resources (e.g., deforestation, soil exhaustion) beyond sustainable levels.
    Demographic "Busts": Sudden drops in population due to declining birth rates, disease outbreaks (pandemics), or mass migration.
    Inability to Manage Crises: A "critical slowing down" where the society recovers more and more slowly from external shocks like droughts or natural disasters.

5. Historical "Perfect Storms"
Experts like Eric Cline note that while single stressors (like a drought or an invasion) may not cause collapse, a "system collapse" often occurs when three or four such catastrophes happen in quick succession, creating a domino effect from which the society cannot recover.


If you use this definition, collapse is already here.  6 months from now it still will be, just with a range of new problems arising from this poorly thought out piece of geopolitical buffoonery.  I'm sure your ice maker will still work though.

RE

What AI did you use? That is a great definition of what is happening...collapse. Did you coach the AI with how you phrased your question or rapport with the AI. That makes such a difference in the way it responds. If you did "coach" it, good job!!! )

Quote from: Knarf on Mar 11, 2026, 05:00 AMWhat AI did you use? That is a great definition of what is happening...collapse. Did you coach the AI with how you phrased your question or rapport with the AI. That makes such a difference in the way it responds. If you did "coach" it, good job!!! )

No coaching, I just dropped "civilization collapse definition" into Google's search box and clicked on their AI button. This is what it coughed up.

RE

Quote from: RE on Mar 11, 2026, 09:24 AM

Quote from: Knarf on Mar 11, 2026, 05:00 AMWhat AI did you use? That is a great definition of what is happening...collapse. Did you coach the AI with how you phrased your question or rapport with the AI. That makes such a difference in the way it responds. If you did "coach" it, good job!!! )

No coaching, I just dropped "civilization collapse definition" into Google's search box and clicked on their AI button. This is what it coughed up.

RE

It must have smelled Peter Turchin's crotch at some point.  Elite Overproduction is his thing.  It gave a very impressive response.  It always does on a well traveled road.

* And he is mentioned in # 2

Quote from: RE on Mar 10, 2026, 11:38 PMIf you use this definition, collapse is already here.  6 months from now it still will be, just with a range of new problems arising from this poorly thought out piece of geopolitical buffoonery.  I'm sure your ice maker will still work though.

RE

If you change the definitions of words to mean something else, of course they will fit any circumstances you like. Your first definition was better, and didn't have that "let me explain everything to you like a baby" that AI answers often have.

Too bad doomer folks of yesteryear didn't think more carefully about being less absolute in the moment, they wouldn't have left so many examples around proving that true believers really are that first.

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 11, 2026, 04:02 PMIf you change the definitions of words to mean something else, of course they will fit any circumstances you like. Your first definition was better, and didn't have that "let me explain everything to you like a baby" that AI answers often have.

I didn't change anything.  Blame the AI.

Here's the 1st one:

The collapse of civilization means a complex society rapidly loses its large-scale institutions, cultural identity, and social complexity, leading to decentralization, violence, scarcity, and a regression to simpler, smaller-scale ways of living, often due to factors like war, famine, environmental disaster, or economic failure. It's characterized by a breakdown in governance, trade, and infrastructure, potentially leaving behind remnants of the past and forcing survivors into new, simpler societal structures or absorption by stronger groups

More concise, lacks the detail of #2.  They don't conflict though.

RE

QuoteBut at the same time, I think you should go to enormous lengths to avoid going to war unless you absolutely have to. But Israel has the opposite view. It lives by the sword. And I think if you live by the sword, you turn yourself into a modern version of Sparta, the end result is not going to be happy.

🚌 🍿  And here we are watching it happen.  Riding in the back seat of the bus eating popcorn while Bibi Netanyahu drives the bus.

In my line of work I deal with lots of middle-east clients (not Iranians those are avoided like the plague). What I hear, and this is second hand information from the bankers, is that there are more rockets, drones hitting targets than the Western media would have you believe.

UAE is being hit pretty hard but the government has attempted to put a brave face and the party line is to say it is all under control. People of UAE seem to be adopting this line to avoid any trouble. Reading between the lines things aren't so rosy. In other places like Kuwait they are more openly apprehensive about the amount of damage being done.

Our hub in UAE is closed and I have heard that some staff member's home in UAE got attacked my a drone and another experienced a near miss. Doesn't sound all pleasant.

Saying that I do feel the US will likely stop given attacking given they have little appetite in driving oil prices through the roof. Once America stops I am sure they will rein Israel in. Trump has never given a clear reason for this attack so it will be easier for him to claim victory given his he never defined what his objective was.

monsta, good to see you.

The lack of news proves to anybody interested that there are more rockets and drones hitting targets than we are told.  Americans unfortunately in general are not yet interested.

Iran's strategy will to make it hard, and expensive on gulf states to maintain their alliances with America.  They will continue to hit Israel and the gulf states to make it impossible to do business.  As they should.

When Iran has engendered the regime change the world desperately needs, and people rise up against tyranny. Iran can stop with the missiles, but not before.  The reason is simple.  Israel can't be trusted and does not want peace.  America is bought and paid for by Israel, and unlike other presidents who had more brains. Trump took Bibi's bait.  As long as Trump is in power America cannot be trusted.  Not for a minute or an inch.

Iran needs to cause pain because pain is the only way to stop our tyrants.

It's pretty much a given that FSoA state controlled media would downplay the Iranian retaliation to make it appear as unsuccessful as possible.  I'll also agree Trumpolini will go ahead and declare Victory, not the least of the reasons being they are running short on missiles to counter Iranian drones.  His declaration of victory also doesn't mean the Iranians surrender, and I doubt they'll let any shipping move through the straight until they get paid reparations, which of course El Trumpo won't do.

RE

Quotewhich of course El Trumpo won't do.

He can't pay reparations and claim that he kicked butt.  He will have to disguise it as investing in Iran.  Some sort of rebranding.  But Iran will not cooperate with Trump.  It is not in their interest to do so.

Seems pretty simple to me.  The only way to stop this war is to stop Trump.  Impeach his ass.

Right now he is claiming all this is a "short-term excursion" and that the U.S. has already "wiped every single force in Iran out."

More shit comes out of his mouth than comes out of his ass.  And it is known that plenty of shit comes out of Trump's ass.  Trump talks like a 7 year old child. : "wiped every single force in Iran out." really dude?  Is that even remotely presidential?  No it is not.


Children think death is not real.

"wiped every single force in Iran out."

Trump thinks like a child and he pretends death is not real.  Or Trump does not care about other people.

Which is it?

Both are true.  And both are a consequence of Trump's high-octane daddy issues.


When is this mad pony going to be reigned in?

* At his own father's funeral, Trump spoke almost entirely about himself and his own 'achievements'.  Currently  the White House is beginning to talk about "The Great Persian Reconstruction" even as active strikes continue.

Gas prices in the Seattle area are surging as international conflict in Iran disrupts oil shipments and creates market uncertainty. According to AAA data, the statewide average for a gallon of gas has increased by almost 60 cents over the past month.

The price spike has pushed averages across the Puget Sound region significantly higher. As of Monday morning, average prices were recorded at $4.88 in King County, $4.67 in Snohomish County, and $4.69 in Pierce County, according to AAA.

Gas prices go up and Trump gets richer.  Bibi does ethnic cleansing as 100,000 people have to move out of south Lebanon under threat of Death. U.S. tax dollars are helping it happen.

Trump has to go.  The longer Trump acts out, the more people will die.  As he degrades, Trump's rage becomes ever more random.  Trump's death lottery is coming for you.  This is no joke.  People are going up in smoke.  Six months ago what is happening now was a mad fantasy.  Now as the mad fantasy comes true ask yourself what could be true in six more months.

Are you afraid to stop evil?

Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 12, 2026, 01:37 PMSeems pretty simple to me.  The only way to stop this war is to stop Trump.  Impeach his ass.

Yes....look how well it worked all those other times. Please.

What a school shooting in Iran looks like.

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 12, 2026, 07:15 PM

Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 12, 2026, 01:37 PMSeems pretty simple to me.  The only way to stop this war is to stop Trump.  Impeach his ass.

Yes....look how well it worked all those other times. Please.

Trump is not worth WWIII even if you like him.

Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 12, 2026, 01:37 PMSeems pretty simple to me.  The only way to stop this war is to stop Trump.  Impeach his ass.

Impeachment still depends on fair elections followed by hearings in both houses of CONgress where a 2/3rds majority votes to pitch him out, followed by him actually accepting the result, or getting the military to forcibly evict him, since the DoJ is stacked with his appointees.  IOW, far from a sure thing.

It isn't the only way either, as Kennedy and Lincoln found out.  While no POTUS has ever been successfully impeached, assassinations have been successful in the past.  This of course would cause its own set of problems so not a great solution either.

In the event impeachment is successful, sending him to the Hague to be put on trial for War Crimes would also be a wise move, to dissuade future POTUSES from following his precedent, as well as restoring global confidence in FSoA adherence to the rule of law.

Any of these outcomes will also have negative consequences.  The lost faith  won't be restored automatically, and polarization will likely increase.  That makes outcomes like Civil War or Secession more likely.

No matter what, we're unlikely to see a return to "normal" as in the FSoA goobermint pre Trump.

RE

Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 12, 2026, 07:18 PM

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 12, 2026, 07:15 PM

Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 12, 2026, 01:37 PMSeems pretty simple to me.  The only way to stop this war is to stop Trump.  Impeach his ass.

Yes....look how well it worked all those other times. Please.

Trump is not worth WWIII even if you like him.

Trump isn't worth...anything. Regardless of whether or not someone likes him. But impeachment as effective action is like claiming that if the Titanic could have been saved if the passengers had all picked up water glasses and started  bailing it out by hand.

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 13, 2026, 04:00 PMBut impeachment as effective action is like claiming that if the Titanic could have been saved if the passengers had all picked up water glasses and started  bailing it out by hand.

Unfortunately under the FSoA system it's the only legal method available.  If we had a Parliamentary system, a no-confidence vote for the goobermint could force a new election, but 1st off we don't run that system and 2nd it only works with multiple parties and we only have two viable ones.

Monarchies and Dictatorships are even worse, there your only options are assassinations or Coup d'Etats, which aren't legal unless successful.  If unsuccessful, those trying to eliminate the offending tyrant risk death or imprisonment so they gotta be pretty sure they'll succeed.  That's why so many senators stuck their knives into Caesar.

Given this reality, what would you suggest to remedy the situation?  You have an alternative I haven't thought of?

RE

You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment. 

The pen strokes and utterances of a leader have consequences.  There are human heartbeats on the other end of them.  Were there to be  a higher judgment then every life lost by a line item is a life to be answered for.  Regardless of justification.  If there is a judgement, Trump is a crispy critter.

If "winning" the war means we'll have more regular terrorist attacks, less safe shipping & air travel and higher oil & food prices, Trumpoolini's Operation Epic Fail war can definitely be counted as a raging success.  Sadly, noone besides the Mad King himself would use those metrics.

As always, Trumpsky's narrative has little connection to reality, he  merely thinks whatever he says and wants to be true is the truth, and in his own mind once he has said it, it becomes the truth.  In everyone else's mind however, it becomes quite difficult to accept as the truth when bombs continue  exploding and people continue dying after the victory.

The reality is this war has always been even more impossible to "win" than Afghanistan or Vietnam was.  Anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of history and geopolitics knows this, but that's irrelevant when you have an ideologically driven moron backed by a loyal following of even stupider MAGAotts running the show.  Terminating his Presidency ASAP at the earliest opportunity is the only chance we have of avoiding WWIII.

QuoteTerminating his Presidency ASAP at the earliest opportunity is the only chance we have of avoiding WWIII.

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A rare photo of an uncensored missile attack.




I don't think she asked Rubio.

40 years after 1984, George Orwell's Newspeak is in full bloom: Truth is Lies & War is Peace.

Does Pinochio Trump even know what the truth is?  Probably not, I doubt he reads the classified daily updates even if his staff drops them on his desk.  At 2AM when he  drops a Tweet down on Social Media, it's not coming from any report or meeting.  It's just what wants to be true as he squeezes another Turd out his fat ass and into the toilet to match the shit coming off his keyboard and into cyberspace.  The rest of us are swimming in a world awash with Trumpian fecal matter.  It surrounds us all in a fetid, stinking shitpile from which there is no escape.

RE

Quote from: RE on Mar 14, 2026, 01:08 AMGiven this reality, what would you suggest to remedy the situation?  You have an alternative I haven't thought of?
RE

Replace every Republicrat with a Democan at mid-terms? That would certainly allow impeachment, but more importantly enough of a swing in the Senate to convict this time.

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 14, 2026, 07:49 PM

Quote from: RE on Mar 14, 2026, 01:08 AMGiven this reality, what would you suggest to remedy the situation?  You have an alternative I haven't thought of?
RE

Replace every Republicrat with a Democan at mid-terms? That would certainly allow impeachment, but more importantly enough of a swing in the Senate to convict this time.

We could be zombies by then.  And there will be thousands, perhaps millions that will certainly be turning to dust.

QuoteThe question isn't whether Trump is clueless about the war in Iran, it's why

Clueless is as clueless does.  If Trump moves against the Kharg Island Iranian oil terminal, then all the terminals in the gulf will burn and nobody gets any oil.  For Iran it will be a smart move because there will be no occupying of Iran by American troops with the world in a global depression.

Anyone who does not know the reason for this warr was to raise oil prices is an idiot.

RE

I had to post this article because as soon as I saw Wright's hands up.  The meme flashed in front of my eyes.

Quote from: RE on Mar 15, 2026, 01:17 PM

DAILYKOS.COM • 2026-03-15

Horror! Trump's Comments about Oil Price Rise Is Starting to Freak Out Oil Industry Executives!

Politico reports that oil industry executives are freaking out about Trump’s remarks about rising oil prices being a boon to America.  Without realizing it, Trump has pulled back the curtain to point at one of his many powerful donors — the fossil fuel industry — with his politically stupid comments.  Basically, the oil industry wants to keep up what they have been doing to America since the Arab Oil Embargo of the early 70’s:  reap huge profits by gouging Americans at the fuel pump.  But they don’t want all the dummies in the public to put two and two together.

Anyone who does not know the reason for this warr was to raise oil prices is an idiot.

RE

Oil companies did not start this war, but now that they have one they will raise prices.  And for them the law of gravity may not apply.  What goes up may not come down. 

Higher prices can stimulate oil business activities in Venezuela.  This is classic Trump.  When Trump fucks up he first blames other people and then repackages his defeat so that he can call it a win.  Failure rebranded.  Operation Epstein Fury mayhem solves many of Trump's troubles.  He can repackage himself.  No longer the convicted felon compulsive lying pedophile; Trump becomes the new Andrew Jackson.


Bringing with him a brand new trail of tears.

Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 15, 2026, 02:56 PMOil companies did not start this war

You sure about that?  Remember, right after Vz Trumpolini met with Oil CEOs and they told him they were not interested in developing it.  I could easily see one of them saying "It would be a different story of course if Iranian or Saudi Oil flow was interrupted by a war with Israel."  Then HRH Trump calls up Bibi on the hot line and suggests he deep six the Ayatollah.

RE

You don't think that they would know all the port facilities on the south side of the gulf will go up in flames?  People with any brains have been able to figure out that hitting tankers is unnecessary if you hit Ras Tanura with a few missiles.  I can't believe I am the only one who has figured this out.  The oil execs would know the risks.  But you may have a point.  Trump's ears hear the words he wants to hear, and sometimes that does not match what was said.

Yea, right.  The FSoA Navy won't go in there because it's too risky, & Trumpolini expects the Eurotrash to do it?  For a war he started and didn't so much as give them a heads-up on?  The same folks he has been dropping punitive tariffs on?

I'm getting a little tired of these military adventures being called "wars".  Wars are where people fight each other.  These things are just Bombing Campaigns.  Trumpolini wants to win a war with no casualties,  where only the other guys get killed.  Problem is, simply destroying property and killing mostly civilians doesn't win anything.  You have to actually take over the machinery of state and run the place, and that takes people.  No matter how long they bomb they can't win.  They'll flatten Tehran, but that just makes it harder for anyone to govern the country.  For the place to become a going concern again, the destroyed infrastructure will need to be rebuilt, and that will be even more expensive and time consuming than the bombing campaign.  It's ridiculous.

RE

Pussy war?  An ethnic cleansing?  It is anything but an 'adventure', and I particularly loath 'Kinetic Response'.


A pussy started it, that is for fucking sure.

Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 16, 2026, 05:18 PMPussy war?  An ethnic cleansing?  It is anything but an 'adventure', and I particularly loath 'Kinetic Response'.

OK, how about "Military Clusterfuck"?

RE

Yesterday I said the port facilities would go up in flames.  Trump pushed, messed with Kharg Island and Trump was sent a message for it.



Total failure.  Iran can hold the whole world hostage and there is nothing Trump can do about it except take his lumps.









The honorable thing to do would be for Trump to go Japanese.












Everybody is lining up to make a deal with Trump.

Quote from: RE on Mar 16, 2026, 05:27 PM

Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 16, 2026, 05:18 PMPussy war?  An ethnic cleansing?  It is anything but an 'adventure', and I particularly loath 'Kinetic Response'.

OK, how about "Military Clusterfuck"?

RE

What we have is a modern siege.  Once upon a time when a warlike state invaded another nation for plunder and raw materials they could only stay for a period of time dictated by the agricultural cycle.  In ancient times the majority of soldiers were peasant farmers.  An army that stayed afield too long risked total collapse of the food supply at home.  The harvest and sowing seasons could not be ignored.

This relates, if the shutdown lasts into April the economic hit will shift from short term shock to systemic collapse.  Oil is the lifeblood of modernity.

It is a war for sure.  All Iran has to do is wait for Trump to be ripped apart by his own people since Trump is not man enough to go Japanese.  There is no way Trump can spin his murderous blunder into a win.  This is Trump's Waterloo.

Hey America, How does it feel to be Israel's bitch.




America watches through a keyhole while Bibi and Trump have gay sex.  America the Cuk.  Nothing but higher prices, and a world full of disgust and hate for America.  Iran was no threat to America.  None at all.  For murderous Israel, America sacrifices.

America gains nothing from any of this.




Some of MAGA feels betrayed.

QuoteAmerica gains nothing from any of this.

No, but the Exxon shareholders are happy.!

RE

More on the gay sex Trump is having with Bibi.

Amazing how Wall Street will jump on Tweets from Trumpolini without accepting the obvious realities.  There's no dialogue with the Iranians, regardless of his pronouncements.  There's no way His Trumpness and the Ayatollah are going to run the Straight of Hormuz "together". lol.  There's no way the FSoA is going to pay reparations and grovel apologetically.  Most of all, there's NO FUCKING WAY the oil supply market will return to normal in 2026.

Regardless of all of this, it's being ignored and they go ahead and bid upp the market simply because El Trumpo makes an obviously false statement based on his own fantasies.

On the upside, the return to reality should be spectacular.

RE

QuoteEl Trumpo makes an obviously false statement based on his own fantasies.

And still people believe him.

The idea that Trump has got some sense, well we have made that mistake before.  Lets not even go there.  Trump's brain is rotting away, and if you think it can improve then you are delusional.  Likely Trump is just buying time for things to get in place before he attempts to grab Kharg or attempt some other madness.  Trump wants to grab Iran by the pussy.  That has not changed.  Grabbing is all Trump knows how to do.





Potential talks.  That is a joke,  The first side to talk in this mess admits they are defeated.  Iran knows Israel has other intentions than peace, and there has not yet been enough pain for Trump to throw Israel under the bus as he will have to before this is over.  But as things are today, Trump will throw America under the bus before he throws Israel under it. 

Before Iran can get a peace they can live with Iran will have to throw America into a 1929 style depression.  That is their plan, and they will prevail.  America will be dragged under the Iran bus since America has no real leadership who can deal with this mess.  Our leadership makes these messes so expecting them to deal with the problem is delusionally nuts.  Our leadership made the mess.  Economic warfare is an appropriate plan for Iran.  Iran did not ask to be bombed, and despite what knuckle-dragging Americans say, Iran was not a threat to begin with.  But now, thanks to Trump and crew, they are.

With no good options available, you can count on Trumpolini to choose the worst one.  Kharg Island seems the most likely, even though the main result would be to further restrict global energy supply for a longer period of time.  It's unlikely to do anything to get the Iranians to surrender.  However, Trumpolini's moving 5000 grunts halfway around the world.  He's not doing that to have them sit on the boat twidling their thumbs.

RE

Another video from Iran.  Madmen are running this war.  Dropping mines from airplanes.  Of course America will say the Israelis did it.  Nobody takes responsibility

• New Weapon Deployed — Magnetic Mines Strike Civilian Village Near Shiraz, Iran
  Reporter: Demetri Lceris | Outlet: Reason to Resist
  Date of Recording: March 26, 2026 | Location: Jamal Abad village, near Shiraz, Iran
  
  1. INTRODUCTION & NEW WEAPON DEPLOYMENT
  On the night of March 25–26, 2026, the Israeli or American Air Force dropped a new type of munition on the village of Jamal Abad near Shiraz. The munition disperses magnetic mines over a wide area—similar to a cluster munition—designed to disable armored vehicles. However, it was deployed over a civilian village with no apparent military presence or facility.
  
  Key Facts:
  
  • Type of Munition: Disperses 70–72 magnetic mines per projectile
    
  • Intended Use: Designed to disable/destroy armored vehicles
    
  • Actual Deployment: Dropped on a densely populated civilian village
    
  • First Use in War: Iranian media report this is the first time this munition has been used by US/Israeli forces in Iran during this war
    
  • Significance: Described as a "very significant escalation"
    
  2. DANGERS & CHARACTERISTICS OF THE MINES
  
  Activation Triggers
  
  • Can be triggered by cell phone devices (reporters instructed to put phones on airplane mode)
  • May be set with timers to detonate at fixed times
  • Sensitive to heat
  • Rain and soil pressure may trigger detonation
  
  Blast Radius
  
  • Shrapnel and projectiles can reach up to 40 meters
  
  Detection Challenges
  
  • Mines may become buried underground, making them invisible
  • Raining conditions increase danger as mines may be covered or triggered by pressure
  • Houses and lands that are unoccupied may contain undetected mines
  
  3. CASUALTIES IN JAMALABAD VILLAGE
  
  First Casualty: Woman Killed in Her Kitchen
  
  • Circumstances: A woman was killed in her kitchen while cooking
    
  Second Casualty: Man Killed, Another Maimed
  
  • Circumstances: A man approached a mine to pick it up
    
  • Result: He was killed; another individual lost an arm and a leg
    
  Third Casualty: Young Father (Approx. 30 Years Old)
  
  • Name: Not provided in transcript
    
  • Age: In his 30s
    
  • Family: Survived by a 4-month-old son and his wife
    
  • Circumstances: A mine dropped near his location; he approached it and it exploded
    
  • Location: His home; family members were mourning inside
    
  • Vehicle Damage: His car was riddled with shrapnel holes; blood visible at the scene
    
  • Wall Damage: A wall was fully destroyed by the blast
    
  • Extended Family Present: Uncles, cousins, and the martyr's mother were present
    
  Additional Discovery in Tehran
  
  • On the morning of March 26, similar mines were found in two neighborhoods in Tehran
  • The deployment is not isolated to Shiraz
  
  4. LOCAL RESPONSE & ON-GROUND CONDITIONS
  
  Marking of Dangerous Areas
  
  • Residents and security teams are marking houses where mines have been found with symbols next to doors to warn others
  
  Ongoing Risks
  
  • Security teams have been working since the night of the attack to neutralize mines
  • Some mines have been exploded in controlled demolitions
  • The reporter was unable to witness a controlled explosion due to the security team's absence
  
  Villager's Defiance (Interview with Local Resident)
  
  • Question: "Don't you fear?"
    
  • Response: "Never. If I will die here, I never move from here."
    
  • On Being Defeated: "We won't be defeated even every day they bombing us, bombarding us."
    
  5. REPORTER'S CONCLUDING REFLECTIONS (Demetri Lceris)
  
  
  • He described the scene as "gruesome and distressing," noting that the head of one victim was still lying on the ground at the time of reporting.
  • He stated the attack was "very fresh" and authorities had not yet had the opportunity to fully deal with the aftermath.
  • As a lawyer, he was asked for his views on what was witnessed; he noted the illegality of deploying such weaponry in a civilian area.
  • He concluded by sharing that a video would be provided showing a controlled explosion of one of the mines to demonstrate its lethality.
  • Sign-off: March 26, 2026, from a village on the outskirts of Shiraz, Iran.
  
  KEY DATA SUMMARY
  
  
  • Date of Attack: Night of March 25–26, 2026
    
  • Date of Recording: March 26, 2026
    
  • Location: Jamal Abad village, near Shiraz, Iran
    
  • Weapon Type: Magnetic mine-dispersing munition (first use in this war)
    
  • Mines Per Projectile: Approximately 70–72
    
  • Blast Radius: Up to 40 meters
    
  • Confirmed Casualties: At least 3 killed (woman in kitchen; man who approached mine; young father age ~30)
    
  • Other Injuries: One individual lost arm and leg
    
  • Orphaned Child: 4-month-old boy
    
  • Additional Locations: Similar mines found in two Tehran neighborhoods on March 26
    
  
  End of Extraction
  
  

(https://chasingthesquirrel.com/public/pics/jamalabad.jpg)

Their crime is to live in the time of Trump.

I've never understood why anyone agrees to not build nukes as long as the FSoA, Russia & China have them.  I wouldn't stop until they disarm all theirs.

RE

Quote from: RE on Mar 30, 2026, 03:14 PM

NDTV.COM • 2026-03-30

How Trump's War In Iran Can Lead To More Nukes In The World

Now, it is not just Iran's nuclear programme that will be a threat to the US and the world.  Last week, North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, said the "present situation clearly proves" his country was right in its decision not to let go of its nuclear arsenal. Kim accused Washington of "state-sponsored terrorism and aggression".  The fates of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi and Iraq's Saddam Hussein are also lessons for North Korea and the world. Both were toppled after abandoning their nuclear programmes.

I've never understood why anyone agrees to not build nukes as long as the FSoA, Russia & China have them.  I wouldn't stop until they disarm all theirs.

RE

An armed society is a polite society.  I agree with Hasan Piker.

Every Sovereign nation should have one nuke each.  Then nobody can use one.















* Patriotic Vision (PVA) of which Mohamad Safa was a part, is an international organization with special consultative status at the United Nations Economic and Social Council in New York since 2018. (http://pva-lb.org/reports/2024eng.pdf)

Go FSoA! See how tough I am?  No Fuckee with Trumpee!

RE

Can't wait to hear the next pile of steaming shit to spew out of his mouth.  Actually, read the synopsis since I can't stand listening to him speak.

So the latest idea is to claim victory and leave the straight closed?  How does he sell that one?

RE

In an address on Wednesday evening, Trump said "regime change has occurred" in Iran, and that the US is "on track to fulfill all its objectives very soon."  "Never in the history of warfare has an enemy suffered such clear and devastating large-scale losses in a matter of weeks," Trump said.

How long?  That's EZ.  Indefinitely.

Hegseth just fired the top General, undoubtedly because he informed him of this fairly obvious statate of affairs.

While the Iranian regime can survive even while their infrastructure gets bombed back to the stone age and anyone who has a problem with that there will be given a first class ticket to join his ancestors, Trumpolini and the rest of the industrialized nations can only last until the Bond Vigilantes reprice USTs to the value of the toilet paper they're printed on.  At a certain point in this mess, our friends at the PBoC will exercise the Nuclear Option, and I'm not talking about the kind loaded onto ICBMs.  The FSoA has $30T in debt that has to be rolled over, and they're not gonna find a whole lotta buyers while the oil is penned up in the Gulf of Oman.  Considering relations with the Eurotrash, Da Fed isn't gonna be able to use the Belgians to buy their own debt either, and mortgages and corporate paper interest rates spike as a result.  PK & M E-E know this, but they would spook the market if they said it.  I am under no such constraint. 😀

"Whether Trump walks away or escalates by putting US troops on the ground, there is no clear path towards to removing Tehran's ability to exert leverage over supplies.  A quick victorious war and a quick regime change in Tehran do not look plausible.

"If the bar for the Iranian regime is sustaining some low-level threat to the Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz, it can likely do this for the foreseeable future," said Campbell."

Indeed.  What does look plausible is a credit lockup that makes 2008 look like the days of wine & roses.

RE

A brief review of American naval history shows how this shift came about, and casts doubt on whether Washington is ready for the future of naval war.


One of the main problems with military strategists is they often build their armies based on their experience in the last war.  This leads to building systems easily defeated or circumvented by new technologies or strategies.  The Maginot Line is the classic example, built based on the experience of WWI, it was vulnerable to the "Blitzkrieg" strategy pursued by the Nazis in WWII.

The same is now true for the Carrier Group, the very expensive flagship of FSoA Naval Power which has been used to dominate the world militarily since WWII.  Those days are over, which some military strategists realize, but dimwits like Trumpolini and most Repugnant War Hawks don't yet grasp.

I have explained many times in the past why the Normandy style invasion of WWII could never be pulled off today by either the FSoA, China or Russia, the 3 biggest military powers.  Ships at sea are simply too slow moving and vulnerable to much cheaper ballistic & cruise missiles and unmanned drones.  A ship full of grunts heading for some beach is much more likely to have Davey Jones Locker as its final destination than a beachhead.

This is a big playing field leveler for poorer, less technologically advanced countries, and the effectiveness of war to achieve political or economic control over other countries has become vastly diminished.  Perhaps this reality will be grasped in the aftermath of this war.

As it stands, we look to be moving into a period of economic siege warfare, where the side that can last longest under deprivations of war is most likely to win.  Winning here is a relative term though, since both sides are economically damaged by the war.  It's not even a Zero Sum Game, it's negative for everyone.  It will be a very expensive lesson for those who advocate for war to solve political and economic conflict.

RE

A reward will be given to the person who captures the American pilot alive, Iranian state television announced.  According to the statement, the police department of the Kohgiluyeh region has promised a reward to those who assist in capturing the pilot or pilots of a US fighter jet shot down in Iranian airspace.

This will give Trumpolinii some heartburn.

RE

He will have more than heartburn if this comes out. 




Almost 750 U.S. troops have been wounded or killed in the Middle East since October 2023, an analysis by The Intercept has found. But the Pentagon won't acknowledge it.

Since 2023?  That goes back to the Uncle Joe years.

RE