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Society => Censorship => Topic started by: RE on Oct 15, 2023, 01:38 AM

Title: Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: RE on Oct 15, 2023, 01:38 AM
The internet stopped being fun a long time before this author started using it.  He talks about the "good old days of social media when Twitter and Instagram were lively" etc.  By the time social media hit the net, it was already long past the days it was really fun, with bulletin boards and blogs and groups of like minded folks who could chat without being censored or being trolled by cointel disruptors or just bombarded by pop up ads. Remember the REAL good old days, when the internet was the Wild West, when you really could post anonymously and where every news source didn't have a paywall?

Not only has the internet become un-fun, it has morphed into a social control and propaganda weapon exponentially more powerful than TV ever was, and where any idea that doesn't conform to the status quo is instantly surpressed and disappeared as quickly as it gets published.

Maybe the Dark Web is better.  I've never been there nor even do I have a clue as to how to access it, but the www is about as useful for exchanging information  TPTB want to surpress as a toothbrush is for paintig your house.

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/why-the-internet-isnt-fun-anymore

Why the Internet Isn't Fun Anymore

RE
Title: Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: K-Dog on Oct 15, 2023, 11:36 AM
QuoteWhere any idea that doesn't conform to the status quo is instantly suppressed and disappeared as quickly as it gets published.

The Diner by some definitions is on the dark web.  One definition would be to try and find us in Google.  I just tried Googling 'Doomstead Diner' using a proxy.  We do not appear.  All links lead to legacy links.  We have been silenced.  You have been 'on the list' since we met, and probably before that.

Links to the Diner stop at:

https://globalcollapse.createaforum.com/general-discussion/following-in-the-footsteps-of-the-doomstead-diner/ (https://globalcollapse.createaforum.com/general-discussion/following-in-the-footsteps-of-the-doomstead-diner/)

Temporary lodgings for the Diner where we could not say Fuck.  We do not have censorship here.  That is another definition. 

If you go to the Global Collapse link, the link does NOT point at the forum index page.  Instead it points to a discussion that does not reveal where we have gone.  Links on the index page clearly do. 

following-in-the-footsteps-of-the-doomstead-diner/ has been tacked on and this is the only link to Global Collapse that shows up.

The link pointed to starts with a post by you.  That is not normal Simple Machines Forum behavior.  Since I host the Diner at my own web address I am very motivated to find out how this all works.  As you know.  The only reason the Global Collapse link does not go to the Global Collapse index page is because someone intervened with search parameters.  The forum default page should be the index page.  But the index page link is bypassed by human action.  This is a smoking gun to anyone who knows how this forum works.  One single link inside the forum has been singled out to be the only reference link.

A link that makes it look like Global Collapse is the end of the road.

We are dark web.  Didn't you know?

(https://chasingthesquirrel.com/public/pics/kdogbetheman.jpg)

Does the highlighted comment on this screeshot of the Midwestern Marx Power Hour show today give you a clue who might be re-routing links?

Eddie Liger made a great rant about Palestine.  When it started going viral it was replaced by a version sans audio.  Not by his choice.  It upset him greatly.  Today's show played the clip with his audio.

(https://chasingthesquirrel.com/doomstead/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.startalkradio.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F03%2FLaurence-Fishburne-as-Morpheus_The-Matrix.jpg&hash=71894508230cfc08046aba65b48ddd77239a95ee)    (https://kajabi-storefronts-production.kajabi-cdn.com/kajabi-storefronts-production/blogs/9203/images/uCXVUkJQ7SFRyw6hCNYQ_Movie_Art_-_The_Matrix_-_Morpheus_Red_Pill_Or_Blue_Pill_-_Hollywood_Collection_1b59bcd0-9df7-46fa-864f-b83bdedba01c.jpg)


I say, sit back and enjoy the show.  Participate if you can.

*  I edited the post at Global Collapse to point here, like this:

The Diner moved from Global Collapse and can now be found here:

https://chasingthesquirrel.com/doomstead/index.php     <=====     (https://chasingthesquirrel.com/doomstead/Themes/doomstead/images/logo.png)

Title: Re: Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: K-Dog on Dec 19, 2023, 07:27 PM
We are RE and I are on the 'left' and 'on the list'.

Check this bullshit out.  THIS IS A DIVERSION AND RIP OFF (https://medium.com/@Doomstead666_47562/followers)

Do a search for us on Google.  Good luck finding us!

(https://duckduckgo.com/i/b6c4b3fc.jpg)

The Ghost of George Orwell and every English Teacher I ever had approves.

Title: Re: Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: K-Dog on Dec 19, 2023, 07:36 PM
We are RE and I are on the 'left' and 'on the list'.

Check this bullshit out.  THIS IS A DIVERSION AND RIP OFF (https://medium.com/@Doomstead666_47562/followers)

Do a search for us on Google.  Good luck finding us!

(https://duckduckgo.com/i/b6c4b3fc.jpg)

The Ghost of George Orwell and every English Teacher I ever had approves.

The top of the list 'Follower' is Keith Huddleston -
QuoteTruth, beauty, agape, and the dao. Seeking to do more with less requires understanding.

And I am Keith Hayes.

The rest of the list of followers is also interesting.  Including a billionaire.  Which of course does not impress me.  I have met a few.

I am not flattered.
Title: - Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: K-Dog on Dec 20, 2023, 11:08 AM
Quote from: K-Dog on Dec 19, 2023, 07:36 PMWe are RE and I are on the 'left' and 'on the list'.

Check this bullshit out.  THIS IS A DIVERSION AND RIP OFF (https://medium.com/@Doomstead666_47562/followers)

Do a search for us on Google.  Good luck finding us!

(https://duckduckgo.com/i/b6c4b3fc.jpg)

The Ghost of George Orwell and every English Teacher I ever had approves.

The top of the list 'Follower' is Keith Huddleston -
QuoteTruth, beauty, agape, and the dao. Seeking to do more with less requires understanding.

And I am Keith Hayes.

The rest of the list of followers is also interesting.  Including a billionaire.  Which of course does not impress me.  I have met a few.

I am not flattered.

Figuring the link will soon vanish I took a screenshot.  Downloading the page turned out to be impossible.  The fuckers are sneaky.  With more sociopaths lining up for employment no doubt.

(https://chasingthesquirrel.com/public/pics/Screenshot%20from%202023-12-20%2010-58-09.png)


* The Medium link is planted by a government agency to lead people away from here.  The Medium page points to our original Doomstead Diner (it should point here) now long dead link.  Look at the Medium Page while you can.  Now that I have found it, this link to a smoking gun of American Fascism Lite will soon vanish.
Title: - Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: RE on Dec 20, 2023, 11:57 AM
I've never even heard of this website before.  And I have followers there?  The only person I recognize from that list is John Lounsbury.

I don't even bother hitting any of the buttons on Wordpress for social media or SEO when I write a blog. Whoever signed me up for that does more advertizing for me on social media than I have. lol.

RE
Title: - Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: K-Dog on Dec 20, 2023, 12:13 PM
Quote from: RE on Dec 20, 2023, 11:57 AMI've never even heard of this website before.  And I have followers there?  The only person I recognize from that list is John Lounsbury.

I don't even bother hitting any of the buttons on Wordpress for social media or SEO when I write a blog. Whoever signed me up for that does more advertizing for me on social media than I have. lol.

RE
Medium was not even a thing when the original Doomstead Diner link went dead.  Of course the link is visible for all to see because it does not go anywhere.  It did not go anywhere when it was posted on the page.  I'll let the ghost of Joseph Goebbels explain why they put in 'Save as many as you can".  This is blatant misdirection.

I have been telling you we are being suppressed.  This is a smoking gun.  It is IMPOSSIBLE to expect anyone to find us with GOOGLE goggles.  You have to put in so much info to get the correct link, that if you do, you already know how to get here.

My guess it is either the Secret Service or the FBI my terrorist friend.  Now do you understand my insistence all along that we have to platform ourselves?  Why I want to control our software!  Why I know You-Tube to be public masturbation that can't possibly start a constructive movement of any kind!

True, we can still be squished like a bug.  They have switched out links on our page before to show me what 'they' can do.

But I can put the Diner on a thumb drive and find a new server.

And I know most people reading this besides you and I will not believe what they are seeing.  It is too much to comprehend.  THIS CAN'T HAPPEN IN MERICA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To know the bad guys win is a taste so bad the brain spits it out.


If it was not for the personal fuckifications I would not believe it.  I would still be dumb like everybody else will continue to be.

The rules of Fascism Lite allow us to dissent and speak truth all we want.  As long as nobody can see us.

I will agree with Steven Pinker (it gripes my ass) that this is much better than head chopping and represents much progress.

And: We have better prison cells than he did.

(https://duckduckgo.com/i/9cd444ae.png)

We can even leave our cells.

Not so bad.  Until now you did not even know you were in prison.  Now that you know, it does suck more.  Way more.
Title: - Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: RE on Dec 20, 2023, 05:47 PM
Quote from: K-Dog on Dec 20, 2023, 12:13 PMWe can even leave our cells.

Not so bad.  Until now you did not even know you were in prison.  Now that you know, it does suck more.  Way more.

I've felt imprisoned most of my adult life.  Even before.  Remember the old folk song "Little Boxes"?  60s, by Malvina Reynolds.


I was around 7 when that came out.  It's all always seemed like one big mousetrap to me.  Everybody running round on little mousewheels.  Of course, there were plenty of worse prisons around the world, but that thing we supposedly had and fought for, Freedom?  Never felt very free to me.

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Title: - Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: TDoS on Dec 20, 2023, 08:12 PM
Quote* The Medium link is planted by a government agency to lead people away from here.  The Medium page points to our original Doomstead Diner (it should point here) now long dead link.  Look at the Medium Page while you can.  Now that I have found it, this link to a smoking gun of American Fascism Lite will soon vanish.

I didn't even know that kind of thing existed. I found this and top of the list is doomstead diner.

https://medium.com/@alysion42/collapse-blogosphere-69a318ad2ac4

If you click the link they list, it goes somewhere. But not the old Diner.
Title: - Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: K-Dog on Dec 20, 2023, 11:26 PM
Quote from: TDoS on Dec 20, 2023, 08:12 PM
Quote* The Medium link is planted by a government agency to lead people away from here.  The Medium page points to our original Doomstead Diner (it should point here) now long dead link.  Look at the Medium Page while you can.  Now that I have found it, this link to a smoking gun of American Fascism Lite will soon vanish.

I didn't even know that kind of thing existed. I found this and top of the list is doomstead diner.

https://medium.com/@alysion42/collapse-blogosphere-69a318ad2ac4

If you click the link they list, it goes somewhere. But not the old Diner.

That particular website looks to be a legit person who does not know we exist.  The link is to something RE put up.  RE should put a link that points back here on it.  But I am not going to tell him what to do.  It is reasonable to expect the web of misdirection to be complicated.

*Rereading the blog authors text, I'll take back my original claim of him being a legit person. 

QuoteYet as a gateway drug, The Doomstead Diner contains information that may be of interest to those who can overlook the flashing lights, videos, and vet their sources.

That is a totally incorrect and inaccurate description.  And something no doomer would say.  Conclude then that this individual created a link to 'doomer' websites for no reason.  So what is his reason?

The question is rhetorical.  Leading people to legacy websites does no harm to the status quo.  Just keep people from linking up.  It is all you have to do.

(https://duckduckgo.com/i/6843aa5c.jpg)  Take my word for it.





Title: - Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: RE on Dec 21, 2023, 06:14 AM
Quote from: K-Dog on Dec 20, 2023, 11:26 PMThe link is to something RE put up.  RE should put a link that points back here on it.

I did not put up that link and I am not a member of that website, so I can't change the link they have to the old url which is not active.

The only URL we currently own is your chasingthesquirrel.com url.  So any searches should be directed to that url.

RE
Title: - Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: RE on Dec 21, 2023, 06:38 AM
OK, looking closer at the Medium website, the Avatar for Doomstead Diner is one Surly used for his posting and on the Facebook page he ran.  Perhaps he made that link page on Medium?

RE
Title: - Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: RE on Dec 21, 2023, 06:50 AM
Quote from: TDoS on Dec 20, 2023, 08:12 PMI didn't even know that kind of thing existed. I found this and top of the list is doomstead diner.

https://medium.com/@alysion42/collapse-blogosphere-69a318ad2ac4

If you click the link they list, it goes somewhere. But not the old Diner.

The Doomstead Diner link on this page is

https://doomsteaddinerbeta.wordpress.com/

This page I DID make and I still own and can edit.  I made it when I was getting ready to stop paying for the old Diner space on A Small Orange.

I should go and edit that page and add links back here.  I'll get round to that when I feel better.  Been pretty sick this week.

All the links floating around the net for the old URL are an unfortunate consequence of having the original Diner up for so long at that URL.  People don't go back and edit their dead links later, even if they are aware they went dead.

Probably the easiest thing would be to pay the registration fee for DoomsteadDiner.net and point it at this website.  Then all those links would work again.  I'm not financially solvent enough to pay the upkeep fee though.

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Title: - Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: K-Dog on Dec 21, 2023, 11:01 AM
When I bought https://chasingthesquirrel.com I should have got https://chasingthesquirrel.edu or https://www.chasingthesquirrel.net/  But as I did not, somebody snatched them up and the price they wanted was $1500 from me when I finally decided I should get them. 

I hope they enjoy their purchase.  Take the .net link.  You can see the attempted extortion.

QuoteOK, looking closer at the Medium website, the Avatar for Doomstead Diner is one Surly used for his posting and on the Facebook page he ran.  Perhaps he made that link page on Medium?

No, that is Surly1's avatar and nothing else.  Surly has been doing Collapse Chronicle as long as Medium has been around.

I understand.

(https://nerdcoremovement.com/wp-content/uploads/Laurence-Fishburne-The-Matrix-1536x864.jpg)

The cognitive dissonance is great.  The universe is not what you thought it was.  The net is under the control of the military by way of corporations they direct.  We are the sheep and they are the shepherds.  Every brain cell you have wants to fight this truth.

But not us.  We are not sheep.  We are considered a threat to national security with our talk of doom.  We are wolves in sheep's clothing, domestic terrorists.  To be kept in a virtual sandbox where we can play.  Alone.

* Look at the profile that created the Medium page.

Medium member since December 2022.  The About page begins with:

QuoteMy 'ideal reader' is posterity, today's 10 year old (or likely not yet born), hence telling those who may read my offerings during my lifetime what they want to hear or may like is of no interest.

The ideal reader is none at all.  Hmmmmmm -- So does the profile come from a real person?

Opinions, we all have one.

* And to help us decide RE should figure out how Surly1's Avatar came from his legacy link.  Because if it is not on the legacy link, the author or authors most definitely know about the original Diner.
Title: - Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: K-Dog on Dec 21, 2023, 12:31 PM
Quote* And to help us decide RE should figure out how Surly1's Avatar came from his legacy link.  Because if it is not on the legacy link, the author or authors most definitely know about the original Diner.

(https://cdn0.iconfinder.com/data/icons/detective/64/Detective_Sherlock-1024.png)
To see Surly1's Avatar you would have had to seen the original diner or been here.  Or been to his current site which is not advertised at all on the Medium page.  On the Medium page Surly1's avatar specifically marks the Doomstead Diner.  The avatar is not related to his current activity which is randomly advertised up top when this page loads.  Load this page and you have a one in 5 chance of seeing Surly1's Avatar on the top of this page right now pointing to his Collapse Chronicle.

Placing the Avatar as the logo of the Doomstead Diner on this Medium page created less than a year ago is like a cheating spouse leaving a credit card statement documenting an on the side tryst lying around to be picked up by their partner.

* The legacy site also does not match the description of the Diner given by the Medium site with 'videos' to be ignored.  The description actually matches our real Diner.  A correct description of the actual diner is given, but a link to a legacy page of dead links is matched to that description.
Title: - Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: RE on Dec 21, 2023, 02:28 PM
Well, perhaps Surly will at some point weigh in with his opinion on how this Medium page came to be in existence.  I've never been able to work out the secret to drawing a large readership.  Early on before Social Media came around, I used to participate on a dozen reasonably popular and well read collapse websites, and I would regularly drop on links to my latest blog or embed my most recent video.  It was very time consuming work, which garnered a regular base of maybe 2000 readers who visited the Diner once a week or so and read a couple of pages.   YouTube got about 450 subscribers.  My biggest audio interview with Nicole Foss got around 6000 listens the last time I checked.  Most got a couple of hundred or so.

I'm definitely not up to cruising around other collapse websites anymore, if any exist that are even worthwhile to spend time on.  I never liked Facebook or social media in general, which is why Surly ran that branch of the Diner franchise.  Whatever it is you are supposed to do for SEO, I'm either not doing it right or my efforts have been undermined over the years, which is entirely possible and does not cause me any Cognitive Dissonance.  Thus I am not surprised it's hard to find our little forum here now, or that Google searches don't turn it up unless you already know it's here and adjust your search terms to find it.

So the question is, besides complain about the fact it's hard to find us, what do you propose to do about it?  Start an email chain letter maybe?  Whatever it is, from my end it has to cost $0 and take no more than 15 min of point and click linking per day.

RE
Title: - Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: TDoS on Dec 21, 2023, 04:46 PM
Quote from: RE on Dec 21, 2023, 02:28 PMI'm definitely not up to cruising around other collapse websites anymore, if any exist that are even worthwhile to spend time on.
RE
The collapse of collapse websites and personalities...as the world truddles on without...

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Title: - Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: RE on Dec 21, 2023, 08:55 PM
Quote from: TDoS on Dec 21, 2023, 04:46 PM
Quote from: RE on Dec 21, 2023, 02:28 PMI'm definitely not up to cruising around other collapse websites anymore, if any exist that are even worthwhile to spend time on.
RE
The collapse of collapse websites and personalities...as the world truddles on without...

That's a fabulous Irony graphic. ;D

The Collapse of Collapse Personalities is an interesting outcome to ponder on.  It would be interesting to plot it out on a timeline.

While the realization we were bound to hit a wall with population and per capita energy consumption can be traced back at least to the Limits to Growth study in the 70s, followed in the 90s by Richard Duncan's Olduvai hypothesis, it wasn't until Peak Oil as a concept became a subject of bloggers and on forums after the turn of the millenium there was an emergence of people who gained enough attention to become "Personalities" associated with Collapse.  Our old friends (sic) like Orlov, Greer and Kunstler wrote their books and LATOC and Peak Oil forums popped up.  Then we had the collapse of Lehman and the Financial Crisis which is when economists like yours truly jumped on the bandwagon.  I would put Peak Personalities coming sometime between 2008 and 2016, after which time things began to taper off.

Why?  It's not like things have improved, we had the Covid crisis, continuing refugee and migration crises in Europe and on the FSoA southern border and Greta Thunberg emerging as the Swedish Joan of Arc leading the Climate CO2 army into battle at the various global conferences which get only slightly more interest than my blogs did. lol.

I don't attribute it to Denial anymore, now I think it's more Acceptance & Resignation in the population at large.  When I talk to people like the traveling nurses who come here for a few months for a nice paycheck.  They seem aware that we are heading for collapse but not real interested in why, they just accept it and figure they'll go on living as they do until it hits them.  Since I can't give them an exact date for when the lights won't go on or they won't be able to get gas for the car, I'm not of much help there.  I also can't do much to help them survive collapse either, because all the choices have negative consequences beyond stocking up some preps and having some cash, which most people in Alaska do anyway.

You watch the newz or read the net, see refugees stacked at the border and say, "gee, I'm glad I'm not one of them."  Or homeless living in tents next to the mall and say, "gee, I'm glad I'm not one of them."  Or Palestinians in some bombed out district of Gaza and say, "gee, I'm glad I'm not one of them."  What can you do about any of this shit other than be glad it's not you?   Yet.  Do you want to read my explanations of why this is happening?  No, not really.  Even though it probably would be helpful because it's supposed to make you think about what you will do if/when one of these crappy outcomes shows up at a theater near you.

I'll tell one thing I would NOT do if I was homeless in NYC right now.  I wouldn't stay there waiting for a bed.  I'd take one of the free plane tickets to Miami and be homeless there instead.  At least I won't freeze to death in Miami.

So essentially the reason Collapse Personalities have Collapsed is there's not very much we pundits can tell people that they can find useful right now.  Far as the bad stuff that might happen to them in the future, you just deal with it when it comes, like any disaster.  Regular blackouts start, more people will have generators, like Puerto Rico.  Gas gets rationed, the will be more carpooling, more electric bikes and scooters.  Trump gets elected, you'll  live with an even more corrupt and useless goobermint than you currently have, which is hard to imagine I know.

I don't think anyone but billionaires is really worried about depopulation, even though the economic consequences are only a few years away.  The FSoA can fudge it for a while with immigration.  SS will be a monster problem in 10 years for sure.  So if a big crash doesn't come before that, we'll get it then.

I'd like to see some kind of movement evolve, which they always do when civilizations collapse.  It could be religious or political or philosophical, who knows?  So far nothing jumps out at me as worthwhile, with anyone charismatic enough to have a million friends on Facebook or whatever the number is worthy of attention.  Livy Dunne has a million, but that's just because she looks great doing splits in a bikini, not because she has anything worthwhile to say.  lol.  I used to think I had worthwhile things to say, but they no longer seem that worthwhile because I'm not charismatic and I don't look great in a bikini either.  If only a few people listen, you don't get a movement.  So why bother saying it at all?

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Title: - Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: K-Dog on Dec 22, 2023, 12:41 AM
Quote from: RE on Dec 21, 2023, 02:28 PMSo the question is, besides complain about the fact it's hard to find us, what do you propose to do about it?  Start an email chain letter maybe?  Whatever it is, from my end it has to cost $0 and take no more than 15 min of point and click linking per day.

Complain is not the right word.  With the comprehension of the reality comes disgust, but I let it go.  Nothing I can do about it.  A couple of decades ago I would be ranting about how this prevents me from changing the world or some such.  Now I know better.  Currently the world does not want to change.

The way change happens is when a critical mass of people sees change as an individual benefit to themselves.  Then like a spark into dry grass a wildfire can start.  A chain reaction of individual gut decisions leading to mass action. 

But a wildfire can't start in wet grass no matter how hot a spark.  This is our current situation.  We live in wet grass.  Two proxy wars that the US is not directly bleeding in, and the aftermath of the COVID drama makes people dis-interested in the outside world.  Everybody is hunkered down now trying to do the best they can with their own personal circumstances.  Nobody sees any personal benefit from rocking the boat.  Yet.

If the Zeitgeist of America changes, we may become very popular without doing anything different than we do now.  If people feel a benefit from coming here, they will come.  That benefit will happen when  the general public becomes interested in collapse.  As things are, there is no benefit people feel from a visit here.  Currently a visit here is for personal edification only.  The feeling of no benefit does not depend on the quality of what we do entirely.  A visitor's reaction to being here depends on the particular social atmosphere a visitor marinates in.  If we give a takeaway that other people find interesting and can share with others in their lives, a visit here will feel worthwhile.  Then many visits we will have. 

We should keep doing what we are doing and not worry about how many visits we have.  When the grass dries our spark will be hot enough.  When more shit hits the fan the public will get interested.  Our current situation is temporary.  We are hard to find, but not completely invisible.  That could change.
Title: - Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: K-Dog on Dec 22, 2023, 11:10 AM
QuoteIt wasn't until Peak Oil as a concept became a subject of bloggers and on forums after the turn of the millenium there was an emergence of people who gained enough attention to become "Personalities" associated with Collapse.  Our old friends (sic) like Orlov, Greer and Kunstler wrote their books and LATOC and Peak Oil forums popped up.  Then we had the collapse of Lehman and the Financial Crisis which is when economists like yours truly jumped on the bandwagon.  I would put Peak Personalities coming sometime between 2008 and 2016, after which time things began to taper off.

And that is a good thing.  Our old friends (sic) were not so pure at heart.  Their interest was mercenary and as long as collapse was a bean feed for them they were around.  When that stopped they were gone.

Evidence for my claim.  All three are still alive and pursuing other lucrative adventures.  Greer is Mr. Magic.  Kunstler works for the deep state deliberately attracting nutjobs to his site for listing.  Orlov still pumps his true believers for cash I imagine, but I don't know since I won't read him.

I stopped reading him when he wrote to me "that we would never meet and he does not have to be nice to me.

Let them circle jerk each other.
Title: - Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: RE on Dec 22, 2023, 01:44 PM
Orlov is probably still on Putin's Payroll and Kunstler is one of those ex-NY Liberals morphed into  Conservatives in old age.  Mr. Wizard is just what he always was, a pseudo-intellectual blowhard incapable of defending his idiotic proclamations so he just deletes anyone who disagrees with him and doesn't kiss his ass.  I haven't visited any of their websites in years.

Gail still runs her site, but her actuary's eye viewpoint is very repetitive, so there is nothing new there for old timers, and she also is not charismatic and not bikini material. lol.  Richard Heinberg is still blogging, now at

https://richardheinberg.com/museletter-369-something-wicked-this-way-comes

Haven't read any of his recent stuff though.

Anyhow, I'm not expecting we'll ever go viral,  I just like keeping in touch with old friends who think about the topics and enjoy chatting about them.  There's always some new twist popping up, collapse is the gift that keeps on giving.  :)

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Title: We Need To Rewild The Internet
Post by: RE on Apr 19, 2024, 12:33 AM
We stand about as much chance of "rewilding" the internet as Doomers who are prepping for TEOTWAWKI stand of surving collapse by going out today and trying to live by "rewilding" in some national park or in the Amazon.  There's not enough "wild" space left anymore to live, even if you're Eustace Conway or Cody Lunden and all you need is a knife and you can survive in the Kalahari desert.

The days of the Wild West in Cyberspace are gone forever.  But from about 1985 until the party was over in 1999, it was great.

https://www.noemamag.com/we-need-to-rewild-the-internet/

We Need To Rewild The Internet

RE
Title: - Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore
Post by: K-Dog on Apr 19, 2024, 09:59 AM
Quote from: RE on Dec 22, 2023, 01:44 PMKunstler is one of those ex-NY Liberals morphed into  Conservatives in old age. 
Haven't read any of his recent stuff though.

RE

That is being kind.  I actually still read Kunstler, but I always do it through a VPN.  I use the VPN as a pair of psychological hip-waders.

Kunstler is not a conservative.  He is a flaming asshole racist who think Palestinians wipe their ass with their fingers.  A century and a half ago he would be an injun-hater.  From Kunstler's point of view if you are not white, you are not right.

I go there to watch his decline.  It is a cheap thrill to know his writing is not what it used to be.  Considering what I was put through, and that he knows something about it makes my interest understandable, and not a character flaw.  He writes a lot of his own comments, desperate to keep his honey trap funded. 

He never was much for substance.  His writing is, and was all style.  He studied other writers to get good at being the sophist he is.  As time goes by seeing what he is doing gives me insight about what he put me through, and the government abomination he calls a website.

I am banned from leaving a comment and that is a good thing.  Being banned means the motherfucker only gets five minutes of my time a week.  I am prevented from obsessing.  When I got the boot my life got a little better.

If Kunstler went to the Holy Land.  Bibi would put him up.  (https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sott.net%2Fimage%2Fs27%2F546485%2Ffull%2F2_Netanyahu_timesofIsrael_com_.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=09bd5150a52b3908aa858fb2111c0bb62eb81efbf8e8ea767044e5784aab7baf&ipo=images)