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#31
Satan's court / Trump's ICE shoots woman in Mi...
Last post by TDoS - Jan 21, 2026, 04:33 PM
Quote from: K-Dog on Jan 19, 2026, 01:45 PM
Quotesome of our favorite bloggers like Kunstler, Orlov and Mr. Wizard
I'm hardly a fan of a theater major pretending he knows anything about my professional specialty either. But creating a theater like message to pitch nonsense? He can certainly do that, I still love "The End of Suburbia" and what passed for the opinion of anyone in that little video.
 
Quote from: K-DogKunstler is not one of our favorite authors.

I thought he was just another doomer opportunist.
#32
Our Mad King / Trump's dementia
Last post by K-Dog - Jan 21, 2026, 03:46 PM
THEDEMLABS.ORG2026-01-20

Is He Fit to Lead? Trump's Denmark Letter And 12 More Signs Of His Dementia

Trump has penned a "deranged" letter with a thinly-veiled threat to Europe as he suggests "peace" is no longer his only priority since losing the Nobel Peace Prize.

IBTIMES.CO.UK2026-01-11

Trump Has '2 to 4 Months Left' Claims Physical Therapist After President Wanders Off Mid-Meeting

Geriatric specialist analyses bizarre window incident and note-reading blunder.
#33
American labor history / Do you think so
Last post by K-Dog - Jan 21, 2026, 06:15 AM
CIVILEATS.COM2026-01-15

ICE Crackdown Is Impacting Minnesota's Farms and Food System, Officials Say

A state official warned of 'serious ripple effects' from immigration operations that are impacting farms, restaurants, and the food supply.


WPR.ORG2026-01-05

Deportations are set to explode — a huge worry for farmers already facing a labor shortage

American agriculture relies on foreign workers. With Trump's immigration crackdown set to expand, some farmers fear that workers will be even harder to find.

FB.ORG2026-01-15

Agricultural Groups Sound Alarm about Farmers' Future

America's farmers, ranchers, and growers are facing extreme economic pressures that threaten the long-term viability of the U.S. agriculture sector.


DTNPF.COM2026-01-12

Farm Policy Outlook for 2026

Lawmakers See Opening to Finish Farm Bill, Tackle Labor Shortages in 2026
#34
Satan's court / How ICE Became Trump’s Very Ow...
Last post by RE - Jan 21, 2026, 05:46 AM

In the immediate wake of reports of an ICE-involved shooting on Minneapolis' north side, agents fire multiple rounds of tear gas, pepper balls, and flash bangs to keep the public at a distance.Dave Decker/ZUMA

Can U spell G-E-S-T-A-P-O?


https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/01/radley-balko-trump-ice-paramilitary-immigration-militarization-police/

How ICE Became Trump's Very Own Paramilitary Force

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#35
Satan's court / Trump's ICE shoots woman in Mi...
Last post by RE - Jan 21, 2026, 01:17 AM
There are a few events I found significant.

The Berlin Wall, 911, Katrina, AIG, Argentina, Egypt, Greece, Somalia, Cuba, Chernobyl, Fukushima, COVID, Homelessness, Global Migration, Trump...among others.

Frogs take a while to boil.



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#36
Migration / Migration Madness & Mayhem
Last post by K-Dog - Jan 20, 2026, 07:59 PM
OHCHR.ORG2023-09-28

Climate change migration is draining Honduras of its people: UN expert

The impact of climate change on poorer communities in Honduras is having a devastating effect on livelihoods, forcing many people to flee the country to avoid starvation.


INSIDECLIMATENEWS.ORG2021-11-02

By 2050, 200 Million Climate Refugees May Have Fled Their Homes. But International Laws Offer Them Little Protection

Negotiators at COP26 are unlikely to deal with the challenges posed by climate migration, a failure that some experts say shows "a lack of political will."

HAVANATIMES.ORG2025-11-08

Honduras: Climate Change Advances Quicker than Gov. Policies

The country of Honduras is one of the world's most vulnerable in terms of the impacts of climate change.



NRC.NO2024-09-20

What is happening in Honduras?

Almost 30 per cent of its population is in need of humanitarian aid and an increased number of Hondurans are forced to move and seek refuge outside the country's borders.
#37
Satan's court / Assume others share your menta...
Last post by K-Dog - Jan 20, 2026, 06:27 PM
QuoteDo you think those highly educated folks like Dr Ehrlich were just slack jawed stupid by pulling the trigger half a century too early?

Not slack jaw stupid, and Ehrlich is an expert on teeth.  Knows about jaws he does.  He wrote an article about teeth.

But humanly stupid yes.

The curse of the capable is to forever expect from others that which only they themselves can see or do.
#38
Satan's court / Trump's ICE shoots woman in Mi...
Last post by TDoS - Jan 20, 2026, 05:33 PM
Quote from: RE on Jan 19, 2026, 01:07 PMIt's hardly opaque to "everyone else", given the vast amount of material that has been written about it from Tainter to Diamond to Heinberg to Carson...among many others.  Hell you even have to include some of our favorite bloggers like Kunstler, Orlov and Mr. Wizard, JMG. lol.

I'll give you Tainter and Diamond, as professional academic types who did research on the topic of quality. Heinberg I hear is a decent amateur violin player...and just because he mouths words you like doesn't mean there is any quality there whatsoever. After all, he advocated that peak oil in 2008 should require the government to force people out of the cities to grow food in the countryside. Amateur violin players playing at doom having forgotten the history of Stalin and the Holdor, Mao or Pol Pot thinking the same thing.
I am unfamiliar with Carson.


Quote from: REAs to when it actually began, that's not a bad question but difficult to put a single date on because there are so many different components.  Also it has to wait until someone notices it, which comes after it's actually underway.

According to you, it already is. I'm asking why we aren't seeing it in any significant way....your definition of it of course. And the beginning of it doesn't have to be a single date, but surely you've got some event or another, maybe a couple of related events, that triggered the your definition of collapse that is quite difficult to see.

Quote from: RELooking at  environmental collapse for instance, Rachel Carson noticed it underway in the 60's, but it certainly began before that.  It only really becomes visible in retrospect, and there has to be some time interval to see develop.

Hubbert was able to figure out his contribution in advance (not his US 1950 peak oil claim which was just a warmup), so some folks don't need to wait until after the fact. 

As far as retrospect in general, I assure you a continental sized basalt flow wouldn't require all that much time to see the results of. Not environmental, but it would certainly and easily cascade into environmental effects without any trouble. Big volcanoes are REALLY cool....which is why Yellowstone got so much coverage among the geologically uninformed when they weren't worried about the Mayan calendar....just a little more steam out of Ol' Faithful, please Lord, and then...BOOM!

Quote from: RESince oil is such a big part of the energy aspect, you could peg the beginning to when the 2nd derivative of new discoveries turned negative.  That would put it in the mid 1960s.

And how many of the collapse conditions listed in your definition are currently churning the world because of global discoveries of oil? You well understand supply/demand/price.....you see an oil price problem FINALLY arriving 65 years later....except....what are gas prices nowadays? I paid <$2/gal. People tried this one before, in 2008 when oil speculation early in that year created a peak price only 48 years after global discoveries did their thing. Maybe the farther we get from global discovery peak the cheaper fuels get? Certainly that correlation looks good.

For the record, the global discoveries angle was used before. To predict all those early 21st century peak oils that discredited their claimants and gave a solid career bumpt to those of us who knew better. 


Quote from: REAnother way to look at it would be the 2nd derivative of global population.  That peaked in 1962.

I don't deny that a big population of a species most closely resembling any other invasive species sooner or later ends badly. But do people have to keep proving they don't know when by continually pretending they do?

Quote from: REPicking out the moment it began slowing can be tough as it's almost imperceptible.

Do you say that because you backed yourself into a corner with a decent definition? Because there are a BUNCH of horn blowing doomers that have been doing it for awhile, and keep getting it wrong. Why did they proclaim the end decades ago? More PhDs in that crowd than ones on leftover dooomer blogs nowadays.

And yet, you me and Da Dog all managed to grow up into aging gracefully gentlemen and all still eating well. And none of it is via cannabalism!

Quote from: REAs it progresses it becomes more obvious.

Indeed. So after the Dieoff back in the 80's was called during 1970 Earth Day celebrations, do you think those highly educated folks like Dr Ehrlich were just slack jawed stupid by pulling the trigger half a century too early? Did they not think about that the Boy Who Cried Wolf routine wouldn't work forever?

Quote from: RENow with industrial civilization it has become quite apparent, and has been so since the early 2000s for any who is not so blind they will not see.
RE

So....what events of the early 2000's correspond with the collapse definition you find acceptable? Certainly BS isn't even a ripple in a collapse pond....once it caught your eye, what did you then discover that mattered? Did you even know that a REAL peak oil occurred in 2018 and here we all still are? With local gasoline <$2/gal no less!
#39
Satan's court / He did not get any the night b...
Last post by K-Dog - Jan 20, 2026, 01:15 PM
RACHELANDTHECITY.SUBSTACK.COM2026-01-12

The ICE Shooter's Immigrant Wife Proves Exactly What You Think It Does

Jonathan Ross, the ICE agent who killed Renee Good in Minneapolis last week, is married to a Filipino immigrant. His father confirmed this to the Daily Mail.
#40
War / Trump Gives Your Dark Side Per...
Last post by K-Dog - Jan 20, 2026, 11:41 AM
QuoteTrump's Letter to Norway Should Be the Last Straw

True, the problem is the cowards of the world miss-perceive what Trump does as strength. Trump does what the dark side of most people want to do, but don't do. To the weak and frustrated, that defines a cult leader. A lot of men would like to be in the Epstein files, just not caught. Paradoxically the ones who scream loudest for their release would like to be in them the most. Trump is their idol.

In the world of the "pussy grabber" strength is the unrestrained pursuit of personal desire. Trump supporters feel unfulfilled, left behind and disrespected. They lack agency in our changing world. They deny that we are all adrift in the same current. They love the rule breaker.

Trump appeals to the weak, he lives out their rage. He lives their darkness. Racial animus is the cornerstone of Trump support. More powerful than economic anxiety or government dissatisfaction or whatever other justification that reeks less is farted out.  That is the truth.  Trump gives permission for people to be bad.

QuoteTrump's Letter to Norway Should Be the Last Straw

I agree with you and I would assist efforts to raise sail.  Enough of being adrift, but we live in a world of weak people who are fine with drifting.  Drift till you die and have a good run.

Nothing will change.

More than a one man band Trump is a transgressive carnival.