Quote from: RE on Jun 05, 2026, 09:05 AMFar as what Dentists give you for pain, it's usually oxycodone and the dosages they give you aren't enough to get you high. Usually 5mg. I take 10mg oxy 3 times a day, I don't get "woozy" at all and it barely scratches the pain.
Quote from: REWay, way different than hallucinogens, which make you experience things more vividly as well as experience what is going on inside your own unconscious mind, which normally you can't experience.
Quote from: REQuote from: RENot sure how a scientists perspective on drugs is any different than anyone else's, since many scientists use them, probably in similar numbers to the rest of the population.Could be. After a career with them I've never seen it, but it is possible.Quote from: REUntil you try it, it's a complete black box.
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I agree that those lacking experience with a thing, a feeling, a drug, a topic, can't say they have experienced it or maybe even understand it. Its exactly why PhD's can't get peak oil right, or Joe Average thinks they can do an appendectomy in a pinch, or experience on a rifle range as a child qualifies someone as a sniper in survival situations decades later.
Still, some folks think that they understand a topic or skill with no experience.
I will take your word and experience on how drugs can be great. I'll pass.







Quote from: RE on Jun 04, 2026, 05:09 PMQuote from: TDoS on Jun 04, 2026, 03:35 PMI can believe that. Doesn't mean I understand their use however.
Well, at least part of the reason you can't understand it is because you never tried them.
Quote from: REHow would you know if you liked Kidneys if you never tried them? Even better, how would you know if you liked sex if you never tried it?
Quote from: REGenerally speaking, if you like Sex & Rock music, you'll like drugs. Perhaps you don't like sex and/or rock, so drugs have no appeal for you.Painting with a broad brush, while amusing, doesn't work on me. I am quite thrilled with sex and rock music, although nowadays I mix in everything from classical to country, the newer stuff doesn't do much for me though.
Quote from: REAnyhow, whatever the reason is, your inability to understand it probably goes back to childhood and you were grossed out by seeing people doing drugs or getting drunk and you couldn't understand it.Methinks you project too much from the perspective of a city kid. Never saw anyone doing drugs, just pops and booze. Occasional moonshine in the holler.
Quote from: REYou never got over that initial impression, never tried it and so it hardened into your current opinion, which is rather childish.Oh...I've seen your speculating on all sorts of topics, and how amusingly your use of IQ for actual experience works out sometimes. I loved your La Longue Carabine tales on peakoil.com, from experience gained while at summer camp.
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Quote from: TDoS on Jun 04, 2026, 03:35 PMI can believe that. Doesn't mean I understand their use however.