Quote from: K-Dog on Jun 20, 2026, 06:58 AMWe are obviously not going to agree about this, and I am not going to argue about it.  But I have one question for you.  Why would a spammer spam us?  There is no financial gain at all.  Why would a spammer want to be here.

We certainly might not agree on everything....there is no such requirement in the real world. My answer is your logic is faulty. You pose "why", and then argue no underlying financial motive. You forget....spammers are a bulk logic argument, there is no requirement of targeeting.

Quote from: K-DogYou live in the reality most Americans live in.  Ignorant.  Blissfully ignorant.

Well, I will agree that there are things I am ignorant of. But neither am I "most Americans". You and I have a net worth that guarentees that. And certainly I am not ignorant, let alone blissfully. We certainly might have different experiences on the way to where we got where we are, and none of mine run to "ignorant", blissfully or otherwise.

You are naturally conspiratorial. A perspective not unjustied by your claimed experience. From a clinical perspective, but one I've observed starting with peak oilers early this century. This particular characteristic exists as a common thread, and far beyond just peak oil. Folks didn't arrive at peak oil because PhDs were claiming it, but because Ruppert told them the government was covering it up, and 9/11 was part of it.

And then the internet arrived, and poured gasoline on every nutter idea in the known universe. Now anyone could prove anything they wanted, claim anything they wanted, social groups formed of folks who believed the same concept (like peak oil forums) but not JUST a concept, but the entire underlying imagined causes. A conspiracy. Conspiracy works...why? Because they exist. And are surely easier to suppose than when someone tries to tangle with my technical expertise.

Quote from: K-DogYou have never been gang-stalked and I have.

Depends on how we define gang stalking. My life was turned upside down by a prosecutor wanting to put me in jail. Tore my life apart. Did your gang stalkers come with subpeonas, confiscation of your property, hunt down everyone who knew you and officially interrogate them? I'd call that gang stalking.

Quote from: K-DogWere that ever to happen to you, then you would be in a unique position to see how things work.

If my gang stalking events happened to you, you would also be in a position to know how my gang stalking worked.

Quote from: K-DogYou, might actually wonder where all the billions in government dark money actually goes.

You might wonder where all your local and state taxes go, to hunt down innocent civilians who dared stay within the law when doing nothing more basic than defending themselves.

Quote from: K-DogAnd once seeing how things are done, you might be less inclined to spout off about shit you know nothing about when it happens again.

Well, I reserve the right to spout off on topics I have little or no experience with same as RE is allowed to spout off on topics he theorizes about. Minor surgery being one of my favorites. Or playing at being geologist. Or motorcycle expert. I love his La Longue Carabine stories best. But fundamentally, you are correct, someone never stood outside my house and watched as I went out. Well...not true....but they weren't trying to hide it.

Quote from: K-DogIt really is a perfect system, people like you are incapable of seeing what you don't want to see.  Personally I want the truth no matter how painful it is.

Oh, we all have our blind spots. Critical, analytic, logical thinking resulting in published science isn't one of mine. Has nothing to do with what I WANT to see...only to see what actually IS.

Science and having it within oneself to do it dispassionately is quite a tool, and can dispatch technical concepts like peak oil just as it can arguments based on supposition, hints, claims of spammers always being the MIB instead of exactly what they appear like, etc etc.

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You're just applying a label you soaked up like a sponge to dismiss something you don't understand.
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You don't have a clue what I don't understand. That was obvious the day you brought "some old Oklahoma guy who told you that conventional oil requires rod lift systems" into your argument many moons ago.

Your argument boils down to "if you don't beleive what I say you are the one who is blind". Might work in conspiracyland where it is swallowed hook, line and sinker, but I don't have the natural predisposition to take the bait without sniffing it first. Having it chemically analyzed. Modeling the fundamentals stochastically to find out of the odds of it being true. Etc etc.

Quote from: K-DogWhat part of 'untraceable surveillance' did you not understand?

* It is interesting how many people who have never had their own website can be so adamant in their belief that the American government would not do such a thing.  Surveil their own citizens without a warrant, heaven forbid.  It would never happen you say.

** In June 2013, Edward Snowden began disclosing classified documents which revealed, the existence of global surveillance programs by the U.S. government, and it's capabilities in cyberspace. 

Do you want to say it never happened?

I say I ran my own website for 4 years, in the earlier internet days.So you can assign that angle to someone else.

I say what Edward Snowden claimed absolutely happened.

I also might calculate odds that you being on the Federal governments radar, with all the power they can bring to bear, is possible. More likely they don't know you from Joe Blow on reddit complaining about his taxes. And that the odds of you just collecting spammers is 95/5 in favor of it being spammers.

Chump and "respect" in the same sentence is an oxymoron. 🙄

RE

Quote from: K-Dog on Jun 20, 2026, 08:08 PMThe text was translated from Persian, that is why it is a bit funky.
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Unsurprisingly, the link won't load on my computer.

RE

It's definitely no coinkidink that Chump started the war right when the heat was turning back up on Epstein.  If Mossad does have Pics or other evidence of his sexual escapades with Jailbait Escorts though, this would be about the  time to leak them.  Problem of course is Chump has the MSM so intimidated even if they get a 250 GB hard drive delivered by FedEx to the editors of the NYT, WaPo and Faux Newz complete with .mov files featuring The Donald's best Money Shots after the Bethesda Junior High Homecoming game they won't make it out of the office.  Even Wikileaks is pathetic these days in terms of getting any real information out of the Black Hole of the FSoA 4th Estate.

I do agree though that eventually His Trumpness will succumb to his own incompetence and Entropy will win the day.  So many things are spinning out of control now it can't be contained and covered up with perpetual lies.  We just need to be patient and he will hang himself.

RE

The text was translated from Persian, that is why it is a bit funky.

I wrote earlier that Trump needs to keep the war going.  The challenge for Trump is that his ability to keep the chaos that he generates by existing, and which he needs like air to stay alive manageable is not possible.  Trump grabbed a tiger by the tail and can't let go.  The minute he lets go the Epstein files bite him.  Never have things been more out of control for Chump, so he needs chaos like a dying man in a desert needs water.

Did Epstein give Israel pictures of Trump with his cock inside a little girls mouth through his Mossad connections.

Or not.

Did Epstein have Mossad connections?  Did Epstein like money?  Did Epstein have pictures of Trump with his cock inside a little girl's mouth?

To construct a statement using Aristotelian logic that establishes Trump is compromised by Israel we must proceed with a logical deduction.

Assumption 1 (Major premise): Epstein had connections to Israel, specifically to Israeli intelligence services.
   
Assumption 2 (Minor premise): Epstein had pictures of Trump with his cock inside a little girl's mouth.
   
Conclusion: If Epstein, had connections to Israeli intelligence services, and had compromising pictures of Trump, it logically follows that Trump is compromised by Israel through these connections. 

Money being the prime mover.

* And in a democracy, and if America had a congress, that would be impeachable.

Back to Square 1.

What effect did this have on Oil Prices?  Practically none.  Oil still trading at $76.  What does that tell you?  What it tells me is that Demand Destruction has already set in.  Everybody who can't afford over $80/bbl has dropped out of the buyers market.  Thus, even with Hormuz closed, there is plenty of oil available for buyers at $76.

The problem of course is that even for economies that can afford the current price, it's taking money out of Konsumer pockets they would have used to buy other things, like new carz and toys for the kids and vacations.  Thus economies slow down, biznesses lose customers, jobs are lost, recession sets in.

What's Chump's next move?  Politically, I'd say he HAS to sanction Israel.  He's gotta prove "he's the BOSS".  What sanction would bite hard enough?  I'd say no more Patriot missiles for defense.  Israel would be a sitting duck for Hezbollah missile attacks.  Will he have the balls for that?  Probably not.

RE