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#31
Peak oil / Oil supply
Last post by TDoS - Apr 25, 2026, 01:12 PM
Quote from: RE on Apr 25, 2026, 12:09 PMThe really smart people never bother with this and understand that the real value of a college education are the parties, the girls, the drugs and the endlessly flowing booze. 😁 
Now THAT is pretty funny, and probably true based on my experience with frat boys and whatnot. I was married, never did drugs and whatnot, and don't drink. I guess I just learned stuff that later came in handy when showing up the PhD and true believer types who jsut went to school for booze and the girls. 

Quote from: REAnother truth is that really smart people, like everyone else all have a price.  Offer them enough money and they'll make a very convincing case for just about any insane notion you care to promote, like for instance that smoking promotes longer lasting, harder erections and stronger orgasms.
Really? So you don't believe in folks being ethical, the certainly of proven science without regard to someone paying you to play make believe?

Quote from: REOr that trannie women should be allowed to compete with cis women in a boxing ring.
Not sure what that has to do with anything. Had problems with trannys in the past or something?

Quote from: REOr that burning fossil fuels has nothing to do with climate change.  Or that the war with Iran was a good idea because they are all Muslim towel head terrorists stuck in the middle ages.

Oh now I get it. You are just doing the reheased littany of anti "party you don't like" stuff. Good thing I'm  not a Republican either. Not a dumbass Democrat either. I have reserved the right to be independent since 1992. 

Quote from: REAll of which explains why I don't put any more value on what World Class Experts in any field have to say than anyone else.
Understandable. After all, if you can't be one, then bash them. Quite a common reaction.

Quote from: REAppeal to Authority is a logical fallacy that does nothing to demonstrate the truth of an argument.
Quite true. But those who demonstrated the validity of their understanding by nothing more than the passage of some time, well, now we aren't talking about logical fallacies at all. Just prescience. Like....say...the opposite of what Ehrlich did. Or Campbell, McPherson, Hirsch, etc etc. Bu what did they know, getting those rubber stamped PhD's. 

Quote from: RERichard Heinberg's work was pretty good, and i've found good information from both Resilience.org & the Post Carbon Institute.
RE

Richard Heinberg? The amateur violin player who claimed that peak oil happened around 2008, and advocated that the government should immediately send/move suburbanites to the fields to grow food, as otherwise everyone was going to starve? He speaks well. As far as technical understanding...well....they say he is a good amateur violin player.

So you like college dropouts (he claimed he dropped out because he liked to smoke weed more, and played in a rock band (according to his interview on TOD) who more closely resembles the ideas of Pol Pot and Mao? Post Carbon in general (excluding Hughes of course....tell me....did North America run out of natural gas reserves by 2016 as he claimed?) isn't bad...as long as the topic has nothing to do with oil, and sticks with just making the world and environment better. Without blaming it on oil disappearing anyway. A decent environmental angle.

When you claimed you never had a major interest in peak oil, but more the overall doomer perspective across many topics, it makes sense you wouldn't know a decent geoscience based peak oil opinion from Joe Bob the nose picker at the local bar.
#32
Peak oil / Oil supply
Last post by TDoS - Apr 25, 2026, 12:40 PM
Quote from: K-Dog on Apr 25, 2026, 11:47 AMI too am an excellent driver.

Really? Do you mean that like a good or safe street driver? Or someone with extensive track time?
#33
Peak oil / Oil supply
Last post by RE - Apr 25, 2026, 12:09 PM
Quote from: TDoS on Apr 25, 2026, 10:50 AMPeople of all IQ's make a decision to BELIEVE. If they have low IQs, they stop there. If they have PhD's, they weave a tale, mixing in facts, history, supposition and "what-ifs", with a hint of "and I've got a PhD" and presto!  Dr Colin Campbell...global peak oil...1990. ASPO in Europe with Colin and Ugo. And others. IQ had nothing to do with how they talked themselves into drawing a conclusion so easily known to be a crock.


We are in agreement on this point certainly.  Also true is that having a Ph.D. doesn't necessarily mean you're very smart.  On just about any subject, if you have at least average intelligence and spend 4-6 years plodding through the subject and then slavishly follow your advisor's directions in the lab and get his order for coffee correct every morning, pay your bills on time at the bursar's office, they'll hand you your sheepskin at the end of it.  The really smart people never bother with this and understand that the real value of a college education are the parties, the girls, the drugs and the endlessly flowing booze. 😁  Another truth is that really smart people, like everyone else all have a price.  Offer them enough money and they'll make a very convincing case for just about any insane notion you care to promote, like for instance that smoking promotes longer lasting, harder erections and stronger orgasms.  Or that trannie women should be allowed to compete with cis women in a boxing ring. Or that burning fossil fuels has nothing to do with climate change.  Or that the war with Iran was a good idea because they are all Muslim towel head terrorists stuck in the middle ages.

All of which explains why I don't put any more value on what World Class Experts in any field have to say than anyone else.  Appeal to Authority is a logical fallacy that does nothing to demonstrate the truth of an argument.  Far as the various people who had a variety of Peak Oil theories are concerned, some were better than others, some were astoundingly bad, some were quite good.  Guy McStinksion was a clown of course, he had us all dead by 2016.  I've never been a fan of Ugo's belief that Solar can replace fossil fuels in time and maintain the current FSoA standard of living or population size.  Richard Heinberg's work was pretty good, and i've found good information from both Resilience.org & the Post Carbon Institute.  There's good and bad information out there, as in all things.  You have to separate the wheat from the chaff.

RE
#34
War / Israeli Terrorism & Genocide
Last post by K-Dog - Apr 25, 2026, 11:54 AM
QuoteIt's beginning to change a little, but how many more innocent children will be blinded and killed by exploding cell phones before it ends?

I'll go with 367,289 kids.  If someone could put up some prize money we could have a contest.  But how do we know when someone wins ??  But we do not have to worry about that, ignorance has gone viral.
#35
Peak oil / Oil supply
Last post by K-Dog - Apr 25, 2026, 11:47 AM
Quote from: TDoS on Apr 25, 2026, 10:50 AM
Oh yes...and I should mention...neither am I. But some people....they are so smart....they believe anything they think. Or find on LinkedIn. 😀😀 So in this regard, you are in some educated company even without a PhD, and also BELEIVING in your conclusions because, hey, you is smartz too!


I too am an excellent driver.
#36
Peak oil / Oil supply
Last post by TDoS - Apr 25, 2026, 10:50 AM
Quote from: RE on Apr 24, 2026, 06:21 PMDoubtful this guy bought into Peak Oil.

I've never claimed that everyone was equally ignorant on the topic. Just those that were willing to demonstrably prove it.

Quote from: REHe's almost certainly a Collapse Denier, an obvious idiot.  His whole theory is based on the premise that Trumpolini is a strategic genius and inside a decade all the the oil will be smoothly flowing again via new routes.
Strikes me as perfectly idiotic theory.

Quote from: REAnybody who buys this idea is a few BTUs short of melting an ice cube.
Or alternatively, he would fit right in with peak oilers circa 2000-2005 or so.

Quote from: REI'd hazard the guess his IQ is measured in the negative imaginary irrational numbers.

I would not. Low IQs are not required to be suckered into a theory, be it him, or PhD's who have their own collapse theories that come and go. Guy McPherson being just one example.

People of all IQ's make a decision to BELIEVE. If they have low IQs, they stop there. If they have PhD's, they weave a tale, mixing in facts, history, supposition and "what-ifs", with a hint of "and I've got a PhD" and presto!   Dr Colin Campbell...global peak oil...1990. ASPO in Europe with Colin and Ugo. And others. IQ had nothing to do with how they talked themselves into drawing a conclusion so easily known to be a crock.

Quote from: REHe's probably a geologist or oil trader.  lol.

RE

Certainly Colin was a geologist, and Ugo something like physical chemistry? McPherson wasn't a geologist either.

Oh yes...and I should mention...neither am I. But some people....they are so smart....they believe anything they think. Or find on LinkedIn. 😀😀 So in this regard, you are in some educated company even without a PhD, and also BELEIVING in your conclusions because, hey, you is smartz too!
#37
War / Israeli Terrorism & Genocide
Last post by RE - Apr 25, 2026, 06:55 AM

THEGUARDIAN.COM2026-04-24

Is this what war looks like now?

Trump’s threat on 7 April to commit genocide , or at least large-scale war crimes against a country of 90 million people, shocked the world.
But it too was a logical extension of a new global order that the US and other western powers enabled by allowing Israel to carry out its genocide in Gaza. There may be little hope in the near term that Washington will respect international law and change course on providing Israel with political cover and billions of dollars a year in US weapons that enable it to commit new atrocities. But recent history in the Middle East makes clear that war crimes will only get more horrific if the world doesn't act to rein in the perpetrators and enablers.

All War is really just State Sponsored Terrorism, but the Israelis have turned it into an Art Form.  Civilians are no longer "collateral damage" they ARE the target.  Really, the only prior targeting of civilians that matches the scale of Gaza & Lebanon was the vaporization of Hiroshima & Nagasaki by the FSoA at the end of WWII.  Maybe the firebombing of Dresden also.  Sadly, for the most part the world turns a blind eye to this, while the Palestinians are the ones painted as terrorists by the Western Media.  It's beginning to change a little, but how many more innocent children will be blinded and killed by exploding cell phones before it ends?

RE
#38
Global heating / Charted: The World’s Carbon Em...
Last post by K-Dog - Apr 25, 2026, 12:53 AM
QuoteRoadmaps for accelerating the transition away from fossil fuels and deforestation.

I want a plastic laminated one.  I love maps, always have.





Possibility is a fairer house than prose.  But prose is more satisfying when all possibility is gone.




Would you tell people there are roadmaps for a juicy steak.  A MAGAnificent juicy one broiled to perfection?  That is a question more interesting than a roadmap, even a plastic coated one.

#39
Global heating / New global panel aims to accel...
Last post by RE - Apr 24, 2026, 07:05 PM

THEGUARDIAN.COM2026-04-24

New global panel aims to accelerate move away from fossil fuels

The panel’s formation follows calls by the president of Cop30 in Belém to establish roadmaps for accelerating the transition away from fossil fuels and deforestation.
"We encourage governments and institutions to draw on the panel's analyses, policy briefs and country-level engagement to strengthen nationally determined contributions, inform sectoral strategies and accelerate implementation of just and orderly energy transitions across different national contexts," André Aranha Corrêa do Lago said.

I am wondering what this Brazileiro Profesor bases his analysis on?

Jannuzzi said there was still time to bring about an energy transition. "Technically, there is no problem. The problem is how to disseminate the information and secure the financing," he said.

No technical problems?  How about the necessary build out of the global electrical grid to handle the load?  How about the financing?  How much will it cost and how will debt saturated economies and consumers pay those costs?

Based partly on the model of the UK's climate change committee, it includes national and sector-level milestones for eliminating fossil fuels in line with scenarios that return global heating to 1.5C by the end of the century.

Last I read on this topic, due to lag time even if all fossil fuel burning were to cease tomorrow, global average temps would continue rising for another 40 years, leaving just 34 years to get it all the way back down to just 1.5C, which it has already exceeded.  That's a mighty ambitious goal, considering all they are doing at the moment is jawboning about it.

I will grant however that if half the population dies off due to lack of fertilizer and the survivors all turn Amish, it might be possible. 😒


#40
Peak oil / Oil supply
Last post by RE - Apr 24, 2026, 06:21 PM
Quote from: TDoS on Apr 24, 2026, 02:33 PMA good one! They said the world would collapse in a decade back in 1970, but I think that was more global cooling, starvation and whatnot. But can't we think bigger than just a regime?

Doubtful this guy bought into Peak Oil.  He's almost certainly a Collapse Denier, an obvious idiot.  His whole theory is based on the premise that Trumpolini is a strategic genius and inside a decade all the the oil will be smoothly flowing again via new routes.  Anybody who buys this idea is a few BTUs short of melting an ice cube.  I'd hazard the guess his IQ is measured in the negative imaginary irrational numbers.  He's probably a geologist or oil trader.  lol.

RE