Quote from: RE on Dec 23, 2023, 01:31 AMFor me, collapse has always been about the economics, so once I made the connection between energy and money (my 4 part masterpiece that got attention from a couple of economists at the World Bank), it became a waiting game for when we turned the corner on PER CAPITA ENERGY CONSUMPTION.So...it ISN'T about the oil..... ???
RE
Duncan's claim of per capita energy production being the trigger for collapse was back in 2008, around the time the internet peak oil claimants were getting into full swing. He wasn't right either though. I've got no objection to collapse involving economics because...it always has? I just don't like the social sciences pretending they are the physical or natural sciences, and in particular this one where "rational actors" (whatever the hell they are) being required to make anyone's ideas work. No one has ever called geology or engineering "voodoo geology" or "voodoo engineering" but voodoo economics makes perfect sense and probably always will.