Quote from: K-Dog on Jan 16, 2024, 09:27 PMThat is a great idea and it would work.  From day one these people would have purpose in their lives.  Knowing the end result is parity with regular Americans would make the place clean and law abiding very quickly.  The residents would do it.

Your solution addresses human need and does not warehouse people like the runway solution, which is a sure way to breed a criminal society.  Give young men nothing to do, and they will find something to do.  And it won't be good.  The humiliation of living on a runway would twist me.

Besides the obvious political resistance you would get, the biggest logistical problem would be finding a location to drop New Start City.

Let's project its Maximum Size at 100,000 refugees.  Since last month 30,000 crossed the border in TX, that's a little over 3 months, but some of them have other places to go already, relatives or friends who got here before.  So say it can absorb new arrivals for 4 months.

The location therefore needs a water supply that can supply drinking water for 100,000.  This water needs to either be piped in from a current water treatment facility that has enough excess capacity, or you will have to dig new wells to supply a new facility unless it's near a ground water supply like a big lake or river.  Only other way would be to truck in bottled water.  That would be pretty expensive.

Gray water for washing and bathing could be used directly if the source water is reasonably free of ag runoff or industrial chemicals, and that could be seperate.  You would need enough water for that also.

So the 1st question is where in the FSoA is there enough undeveloped land close enough to an adequate water supply for NSC?  Lot's of land in the desert, but no water.  No good.  Most locations that have the water supply necessary already have cities or towns built there.  The only places I can think of that aren't built up are mountainous regions where building roads is difficult.  Also difficult to build the housing, you'll need to have heavy equipment to level out building pads for the modular homes.  I would make the basic unit 16'x16', for 256 sqft per person. 8'x16' modules for each additional person in a family unit.  The parts for the modules thus fit nicely on a typical semi trailer.  Wall panels would already have the electrical conduit and plumbing pipe fittings, so you just snap it together with cordless drills.  Bathroom comes as a 4'x4' module with a composting toilet.  Kitchen a 4'x8' module with sink, 2 burner electric stovetop, microwave/convection oven and small refrigerator/freezer.

So, now in addition to finding the location, you'll need heavy equipment for leveling pads and a cement mixer for pouring foundations.  You'll need a large building onsite where the module parts can be assembled.

Even though all this will obviously cost money, I'm sure it would be cheaper than what NY is spending right now on their shelter system, which is in the $Billions$.

Identifying a possible location is the first big hurdle.  Anybody got an idea on a spot?

RE