Quote from: RE on Apr 11, 2024, 07:53 AM

Quote from: jupiviv on Apr 11, 2024, 01:55 AMThe rational democratic management of fossil fuels is the only option for 8 bn people, or 4 bn for that matter.

How does democratic management help if the majority of people will choose to keep burning ffs to retain their standard of living longer?

RE

This is an example of honest difference of opinion, which I have no problem cordially engaging with. To answer your question, democratic management is necessarily rational. The majority of people aren't choosing to do anything with fossil fuels. If they were in a position to do so, it would only be through the complete transformation of the current society. People would be communally rearing children/caring for the elderly, would concretely identify their own interests with those of the entire human race, would want the society they are genuinely involved in building to endure for thousands of years etc. Why wouldn't they choose to rational manage fossil fuels, population etc?

You can argue that none of this will happen given the time we have left and/or other constraints, but that is a different discussion to claiming 'human nature' doesn't allow for those things.