Quote from: RE on Jun 19, 2023, 04:32 AM

Quote from: FarmGirl on Jun 18, 2023, 08:29 PMSo you are assigning value to sheer quantity?

No, quantity by itself is not sufficient, content is also an important factor.  TKs screed was an argument against industrialization and how people were destroying the planet.

Certainly a worthy screed. And accurate.

Quote from: REThe argument is basically correct.

Yup.

Quote from: REHis solution was to unilaterally declare war on the civilization.  AFAIK, he wasn't targeting individuals to kill, he was bombing establishments to begin the process of destroying the enemy, which in his analysis was the civilization.

The folks he killed didn't sound like establishments though...more like...just folks. Was this guy so far off the deep end that he figured killing a couple random people would bring down civilization?

Quote from: RENow, clearly his methodology wasn't very effective and had a low probability of success, but in his MK Ultra addled brain it seemed to him like the best way to achieve the overall goal of destroying the civilization.

Well there it is. An addled brain. So 100-200 words as you've used to explain it, certainly didn't require him cranking out 30,000. When normal folks can agree right off the bat with the premise, he could stop there, and then try and figure out effective action rather than just some rando murders.

Quote from: REHe did have some success in the sense that his campaign got him a lot of notoriety and a whole lot more people read his manifesto than otherwise might have been likely.

Well, killing randos will certainly get you notoriety regardless of whether or not the screed was 200 words or 30,000. Or what it said. Sort of like well endowed famous female celebrities disrobing to catch your attention to their cause. When all is said and done, folks only pretended to listen, the disrobing being far more interesting.

Quote from: REHe got a whole lot more than 15 minutes of fame, he was in the news cycle for a solid couple of decades.

So has Bundy, and the Columbine kids. No screed necessary if the point is just attention. And those 9/11 folks are guarenteed to be famous forever, but when it comes to mass murder, numbers seem to matter.

Quote from: REAfter all, one man's Terrorist is another man's Freedom Fighter, it just depends whose side you are on.

Quite true. George Washington being the perfect American example.

Quote from: REAs we move forward down the Collapse Highway, I suspect there will be many more bombings of the infrastructure of industrial civilization, from banks to data centers to refineries and power plants.  Ted Koscynski was just ahead of his time, a preview of the world to come.
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Oh, while Ted might be right in the same way peak oilers will be, bombings of infrastructure don't need to have a body count, and folks can respect that kind of protest better than murdering type folks. Get enough people involved doing this and things might actually begin to change.

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