Quote from: TDoS on May 03, 2024, 08:15 PMReally? So support of Americans isn't support of all Americans including MAGA folks and white nationalists and neo-Nazis and Libtards, etc etc?

Nope.  It depends on context.  With respect to Palestinians, the context is support of their desire for self-rule  and an end to the occupation of Gaza.  The protests have express goals they support:

1- Divestiture by the Universities of investment in Israeli companies and arms manufacturers who supply the Israelis

2- A cease fire by both sides

3- Removal of Israeli Occupying forces from Gaza.

4- The creation of a separate Palestinian state with its own territory and goobermint

Nowhere in there is support of Hamas mentioned or implied.

QuoteAnd you don't know the difference between Americans and America.

The difference is one refers to the political state, the other refers to the individuals who by virtue of citizenship are members of that state.

Palestinians have no state, Palestine currently just refers to a geographic area which includes Israel.  So depending on context, "Palestinians" is used as a substitute for talking about nation-state level goals.  In the context of the demonstrations, when a sign says "We support the Patestinians", it's a short way of saying "We support Palestinians in their desire for Goals 1-4 as stated in the letter we sent to the University administration."

Trying to conflate Hamas into it is just pandering to fears of terrorism, just as calling the protests anti-semitic conflates racism into the debate.  A good newz agency tries to avoid doing that sort of thing, newz agencies which have an agenda to sway public opinion against the demonstrators add this stuff in on purpose.  In fact what they do is turn the whole debate into an argument about terrorism and racism, rather than about political independence and military occupation.

This is obvious to Diners, who are used to seeing political spin and propaganda techniques used in the media, not so obvious to the population at large.  It is no surprise you would write a headline to make this about Hamas rather than the actual goals stated by the demonstrators, since strawman arguments are a regular feature of trolling behavior.  Just in this case for a change you applied it to politics instead of Peak Oil.  Otherwise, it's just same shit, different day.

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