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    San Diego residents oppose mayor Gloria's 1,000-bed homeless shelter proposal

    Started by RE Jun 09, 2024, 01:36 AM

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    Jun 09, 2024, 01:36 AM
    A 1000 bed shelter?  If this is on the design of the typical "open plan" low barrier access shelters they put in school gymnasiums and warehouses, they lay out the floor with a 10'x10' checker board, 100 sq ft with a bed, dresser table with a couple of locking drawers, a chair and writing desk.  100 sq ft per customer.  That's 100,000 square feet just for the living space, then it needs bathrooms, food prep and storage, administrative offices, a waiting room etc etc etc.  This is basically a small town.  Except you have he whole town in a building with a footprint of a bit over 2 football fields.  Clearly it would need to be multistory, since I don't think they are gonna build a stadium.

    Except of course unlike a small town, they mostly don't know each other, many have been on the street for years, many don't speak english, etc, etc etc.  You're going to house 1000 people together like this for an indefinite amount of time?

    How many guards does a prison have on duty per capita?  10 seems to be average for minimum security prisons.  But prisons have cells to lock up the prisoners and they're generally not all free to move around at the same time.  The potential here for a fight to break out and turn into a full scale riot is pretty significant.  So besides being multistory, each floor would need to be cut up into a few large rooms.  If we make it 6 stories with 4 rooms on a floor, bottom floor for the lobby and offices and some kind of recreation areas, that's 20 rooms, so 50 people per room.  This seems somewhat manageable.

    How many staff will you have on duty for 3 8 hour shifts per room?  shifts 8-4, 4-12 and graveyard 12-8.  In the Gulag here for 17 gomers per court, we have 3 CNAs for the day, 2 at night.  Let's say you could do it with 2 for the day shifts, 1 for the graveyard, that's 100 5 day/week full time, and another 100 2 days/week part time.  What's the pay scale for this job?  At least $25/hr to start, IMHO.  For just the full time workers, that's $50K/year each, $10M year for this bare bones of operating staff.  You're gonna need more building security, housekeeping and janitorial and of course a few highly paid administrators.  Social Workers also.

    In other words, the costs incurred with this type of group housing end up far higher than if you give them individual apartments.  If 100 homeless set up a tent city, there are no official staff costs for this.  They usually will self-police to an extent and assign cleanup duty if the encampment lasts.  However, the sanitation department has to come in periodically, police get called often for domestic issues and they eventually contract for porta potties.  The more it becomes state sponsored, the more it begins to cost.  Here's CA costs per inmate:

    Security

    $44,918

    Inmate Health Care

    $33,453

    Medical care

    23,290

    Psychiatric services

    5,341

    Pharmaceuticals

    3,156

    Dental care

    1,666

    Facility Operations and Records

    $9,510

    Facility operations (maintenance, utilities, etc.)

    6,015

    Classification services

    2,363

    Maintenance of inmate records

    911

    Reception, testing, assignment

    193

    Transportation

    27

    Administration

    $9,508

    Inmate Support

    $4,723

    Food

    2,456

    Inmate employment and canteen

    1,259

    Clothing

    382

    Religious activities

    158

    Inmate activities

    469

    Rehabilitation Programs

    $3,652

    Academic education

    1,689

    Cognitive behavioral therapy

    1,422

    Vocational training

    541

    Miscellaneous

    $367

    Total

    $106,131


    Costs for running Homeless Housing system to address the problems basically the same way a Prison or Nursing Home is run would be similar.  Not precisely the same, there would be different things required, like finding permanent housing, jobs and education for the kids.  The numbers we are talking about are already bigger than the Prison Population of the FSoA, the biggest Police State in the world.  There are  roughly 1.23M prisoners in the FSoA.  Nearly 2.6M people migrated to the FSoA in 2022.  Estimated homeless in 2022 was 582,000.  Based on observation around Anchorage, newz stories about homelessness and anecdotal stories, I estimate the number conservatively has tripled since 2022.  It also doesn't cunt couch surfers and people in other substandard situations like illegal apartments and shared apartments by immigrants where they sleep in shifts.

    So, IOW, the idea wwe are going to be able to handle the growing homeless problem by increasing the size and scope of the public homeless shelter system is another example of Magical Thinking.  Taxpayers won't cough up thee money it would take, and billionaires and corporations won't foot th bill either.  They'll make a show, but the actual numbers will dwarf what is actually available in the system.  Wait lists for housing will stretch into years.  It's a time bomb waiting to explode.

    https://www.10news.com/news/local-news/san-diego-residents-oppose-mayor-glorias-1-000-bed-homeless-shelter-proposal

    San Diego residents oppose mayor Gloria's 1,000-bed homeless shelter proposal

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