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    - What is collapse?

    Started by Surly1 Jan 02, 2025, 11:36 AM

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    Jan 02, 2025, 11:36 AM
    Quote from: monsta666 on Dec 30, 2024, 01:50 PM
    Quote from: K-Dog on Dec 30, 2024, 01:09 PM
    Quote"We need dramatic social and technological changes."

    Which is exactly what I have been saying for twenty years.

    And like most cerebral idiots he has to examine 361 studies, and 73 books to come to this earthshaking conclusion.

    And the point is change, not study.  But that is too hard.
    You know what the kicker is? He can back his theory with all those 361 studies and despite all the evidence available people would rather take some video off TikTok which says you can fit 8 billion people in the state of Texas so therefore there is no population problem. This isn't a problem about information but of peoples' (and societies) inability to grasp the truth despite evidence to the contrary. But I suppose he will need another 361 studies to reach that point...

    I read this article and would not be so quick to disparage Brozovich. I, for one, am impressed that there are actually 361 studies and 73 books on societal collapse. While like most here (I assume) I have read and am otherwise familiar with many of them, I had no idea there were so many. And while we could disparage the academic as another Johnny-come-lately, I recall a lesson learned during my years as a TV producer: "About the time you are getting sick of hearing it, other people are hearing it for the first time."

    Yes, study is far easier than change. Human nature being what it is, most of us are change-averse. In my dotage I've become a real rut-person. We'll keep putting one foot in front of another until the road disappears.

    And in terms of "we need dramatic social and technological changes," money says not gonna happen. Idealism is dead: sold and stripped for parts. Money rules, and Mammon is hungry.

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