Quote from: RE on Jan 04, 2025, 11:40 PMOne thing is 4 sure, the ACP couldn't do worse than the current goobermint in dealing with the problem.

Far as what the ACP has as a plan to address homelessness, I doubt it involves 7 figure homes.

Well, the ACP hasn't accomplished anything to date, so sure, it could possibly do better. Could certainly be worse. We know the results of communism and warehousing people, we've got plenty of USSR/Chinese and central/south American folks as examples.

Their 10 step plan seems completely reasonable for anyone, and it obviously works for dopers and drunks..not all of them of course...but some. Is "some" solution enough to be better at scale...or worse?

Quote from: REProbably they would have HUD build 1 bedroom apts on a standard plan for singles and townhouses or condos for couples and young families at a subsidized cost, off a waiting list until enough units were built to get everyone housed.  That's the most straightforward plan anyhow.

Sure. USSR style communism. Personally, I think K-Dogs ACP version is much better. Teach people to be better, and then the results will follow from sticking to the self improvement principles. BOOM....7 figure homes and cars for all ACP members. We promise!

Quote from: REA better plan would be to use this as an opportunity to completely redesign our paradigm and get away from the urban/suburban/rural models of housing and begin demolishing the current suburban individually owned McMansions in favor of more flexible modularized mobile housing.  Both of these methods could be employed depending on the situation in the current community.

RE

Hopes and Dreams abound. Outcomes however...well...I think K-Dog has it right. Get yours first..and THEN proclaim your support of ....whatever...and the ACP salesmen can use those ACP members as examples of what being a good ACP member can get you.

Changing paradigms is hard. Americans aren't the hard workers they once were, fast, loose, and easy rule the day now. Get on the internet, become an influencer, collect your cut of the ad sales, everyone can do it (or they want others to believe that) and presto! Call the system whatever you want, as long as those pitching it got theirs first. You need them to bring in the suckers.