Quote from: RE on Jan 06, 2025, 11:23 AMWhile the history of Western European colonialism has been written, the interpretation of it certainly appears to be a popular hobby for some folks.Quote from: TDoS on Jan 06, 2025, 06:40 AMcapitalism certainly cleaned their clocks.
Capitalism "cleaned their clocks" only in the sense that capitalism was a highly organized criminal cartel that had been in operation since the founding of the British & Dutch East India Companies and the Bank of England in 1692.
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Without those random acts of history, there is as much chance of NON American exceptionalism as ACTUAL American exceptionalism. Certainly the Bank of England, bankers through 1940 or money supply through that period of time encouraged the Japanese to pull the pin on the dumbest military adventure of the 20th century, thereby activating something that wasn't much related to all those pesky bankers and events prior.
Transition events can really bollocks up a cool macro story.
And then capitalism in America post WWII is what did in those fine Commie gentleman. Oh sure, we had some red scares along the way and more run of the mill capitalism, No Dutch Indies around much anymore. And in the world of those fine Soviet Commies, with third world kitchens and if memory serves, NOBODY driving those fine German luxury autos available to American communists, turns out that system failed pretty specularly. China is still an ongoing concern, so maybe we should all cheer on a better society as replicas of the ChiComs?
Everyone here would LOVE the minders living with us to make sure we treat our children right? Brainwash them correctly? Don't the Chinese have some wonderful row housing sort of like the Soviets did?

I wonder what it takes for a ChiCom to be given a million dollar home and luxury cars for family members? Political influence probably?
Why is it when the wonders of Communism are espoused, we don't talk about the ChiComs as our model of how well Communism works? Or...not...?