Quote from: monsta666 on Feb 01, 2025, 02:28 AM

Quote from: TDos on Jan 31, 2025, 04:43 PMWho would ever confuse marriage with trying to impress people, conform or collect status? Sounds almost like a weak mind falling for whatever they've been spoon fed online or by their parents of friend or whatever.

There are many cultures where family will exert significant pressure on their kids to get married.

I hadn't thought of that one, but folks who were raised in the remnants of the old Empire certainly might. Makes perfect sense, from a perspective and history that remembers "back in the day".

I lack that perspective. Marriage as arranged, marriage as alliances in families, the way of the Monarchy and what not.

Quote from: Monsta666It still exists today because think, how would people react to a US president who was a single?

Not much. Convicted criminals are now good to go, hard to think that being single is worse when it comes to ability to be elected in America.

Quote from: Monsta666At the end of the day marriage and by extension kids is a marker of success in society. People want to appear successful in the eyes of others so the desire to marry is partly motivated to gaining social status.

Interesting. And as usual alien to me. I didn't give fuck all about what society thinks, because it sure never thought dick about dirt poor hill jacks in Appalachia regardless of who they marry, or why, or what lies they tell the world on social media.

I wonder what percentage of modern America is infected by this? Watching the social media age unfold, it has been just stunning from my perspective of "never exsited before, don't care, doesn't matter" but the wife certainly seems to have gotten caught up in it along the way.

"Oh, you shouldn't say something like that!" she says.

A slight hesitation to make sure I didn't say something incrrect or stupid..and then "why not"? I ask.

"Because there are these popular people online who make lots of money making sure we all know our pronouns and are educating everyone as to these new ways of doing things! And they have millions of followers and are rich and popular!"

Another hesitation...."...o...k....and what fuckard decided that the accuracy of a thing being said is accurate or even true based on internet clicks or making money off the cute ads they make claiming it on the internet?"

And then she says.."oh you're just old and don't understand".

Probably an accurate statement. I am old. I'll stick with "quality uber alles" with the time I have left.