@RE: In K-Dog's defense as an outsider looking in it is becoming harder to be sympathetic with the average American. And I will try and explain why. The issue here is the Americans didn't vote for Trump once but did so on TWO occasions. Now doing it once is somewhat understandable as sometimes in the heat of the moment we can make irrational decisions. I have done or made stupid decisions so yes it is forgivable to make a poor decisions however the fact people have voted him in twice indicates there is some deeper issue at play here.
You also have to consider that Trump telegraphed a lot of his moves before his elections. He was very open about his desires to implement tariffs, cut off aid, massively reduce government spending and breed a general environment of hate and contempt for others and the institutions that define people and the nation. Many people voted for him on that platform so if things go south they are also culpable because they supported such actions.
As they say, you sleep on the bed you make. Now I do get it, this sucks for the people who voted against and even actively fought hard against the Trump re-election as those people suffer the same loss of reputation as the one that gets suckered in. In this instance and especially those outside America everyone will look at you with a lower regard.
I can relate to this because the UK's standing went down a notch when they voted for Brexit. Many of the people in Europe thought we were foolish and all Brits were tarnished with the same brush even though a good chunk voted against Brexit. However in history people tend only to remember the winners and in this instance the winners were the people who voted for Trump (or in the case of Brexit voted for Brexit).
You can argue this is not fair but this is the nature on how people make their judgements and could partly explain why this belief that "it is all Americans fault" comes from. To put this more simply, what I think this argument boils down to (correct me if I am wrong K-Dog) is that while the Trump's of this world are the ones who commit the crimes their mandate comes from a large base of support that enables them to allow the status quo to continue.
The biggest grey area in this kinda debate is how informed are the public? On many occasions the public are genuinely deceived so it hard to blame them for their voting patterns but in the case of today, it is harder to say you are innocent when clear facts against Trump (or any other hare brained ideology) are presented and you choose to ignore reality and give your vote to the local populist who makes you feel better.
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