Quote from: K-Dog on Apr 06, 2025, 09:52 PM

QuoteRE wants to prosecute people for knowing something.

That is the trouble with being an adult.  We can be responsible for knowing things, and we can be held accountable for inaction should our inaction knowingly cause harm to others.

A well written response to the point I initially made.

My response is as follows: You know as I do that our fossil fuel powered cages emit greenhouse gases that will lead to what they already have, degradation of the environment, ultimate collapse/destruction of society. You know it, I know it.

So both of us can be held accountable for our personal inaction, you and I knowingly driving liquid fueled polluting machines. What punishment do you believe you and I deserve?

Quote from: K-DogAnd enforcing this maxim is the only way to stop Trump. 

Not just Trump, or XOM. You and I have skin in the game as well. Not so much RE, he has no choice any more about his pollution levels. So he gets a pass.

Quote from: K-DogKnowing stuff to the contrary holds people to account, establishes intent, and certifies guilt.

And the punishment you and I deserve for "knowing stuff" and still helping to pollute this world is....?

Quote from: K-DogDietrich Bonhoeffer stated that stupidity not malice is a greater danger to society.

Sounds like a smart man. But no one mistakes you or I for stupid. Nor can our polluting actions through the continued use of fossil fuels be considered malice. We don't WANT to kill the planet. It just...happens. And we don't want to be inconvienced by riding a bicycle or walking. If we even CAN. I moved end of last year, suddenly the walking or bicycling distance of the grocery, convenience store, movie theater, light rail, all are now a required cage ride away.

Quote from: K-DogStupidity is a social phenomena.

I disagree. Stupidity is a mostly quantifiable intelligience metric within the range of human intelligience. A social phenomena is like...ticTok. Or buying tella tubbies.

Quote from: K-DogStupidity thrives in groups, silences critical thinking, and causes people to blindly accept 'known stuff' without reflection.  From which unspeakable acts then result.

Stupidity loves company, I can buy that. But you are teetering awful close to describing a system that isb't just about intelligience, but exists online with people who aren't stupid, in the online echo chambers that people concoct across a myriad of topics where it isn't stupidity that drives the group, but something more sinister, social compliance, social acceptance for the price of your silence, based on ignorance sometimes, or stupid, but just as often the social desire to feel you are a part of a group, buried in a common belief system that offers support for the precepts of whatever the topic is.

Your comment could also apply to religion. A form of social contol based on comply, or be cast out. Believe what I believe, regardless of veracity, and you win! Prove that I am wrong and dare to voice the proof? Banished.

Like Luther except on a small scale.