Quote from: K-Dog on Dec 05, 2025, 08:03 PMRich folks think that just because they are rich they can make all the rules.  Rich folks think that because they are rich, they are superior.  Rich folks think that because they are rich they have a better understanding of things.  And they are wrong.

The rules in America totally suck and people suffer.

See...this is a reasonable statement. We can disagree on the relative nature of "totally suck" I suppose, and the strength of the correlation between that and "people suffer" if only because people always suffer, somewhere, in all human systems, because...we are humans and it seems it is what we do. There is no utopia that anyone has figured out quite yet.

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Quote...whom you and I are personally familiar with.

True that, I have met three billionaires in my life, and have seen the rich.  I have talked to them.

So have I. But you know what? Folks who's net worth is perhaps...in the millionaire class, we think about that next leg up, the billionarie class. But you know what? I'll bet that folks in the "not a pot to piss in" class talk about knowing folks who have a $100k house and eat well. And then those folks know a millionaire of net worth, and so on and so forth.

Quote from: K-DogThey like me, I can blend.  And I know how smart and dumb they are.  So, the fact is, I may be coming from a clear-headed place, and not have the warped agenda you are always fishing for.

Well, based on the tales around of interesting recreational....hobbys.....some posters have, we can hope that clear-headed is the normal condition anyway.

You are hardly alone in the clear-headed realm however. Just because your clear headed doesn't like another clear headed opinion on some subjective topic doesn't make either warped.

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QuoteBecause then you wouldn't have to complain about the fraction of your hourly wage that danish and coffee cost?

I do not recall complaining.

Well....sounding irriated perhaps?

Quote from: K-DogNoting that wages are not keeping up with costs is not complaining.

True. But it is a complaint that has been going on since...I dunno....either of us began making money? Sometimes better, sometimes worse, and so it goes.

It is like...getting irritated that humans age. It is no fun, it always happens, sometimes you change faster, sometimes slower, but it is always there.

Quote from: K-DogUsing a personal example only shows I know what I am talking about.

Well, I'm not allowed to use those because...you know...but certainly you aren't the only one who knows what you are talking about.

Quote from: K-DogMy financial situation is interesting.  I earned my money, I did not inherit it, and I did not earn it from investment significantly.  For the most part what I have is straight up earned wages. Leaving me with savings significantly above the median and a sense of personal satisfaction.

Hey! Me too! But I don't find this situation interesting, just....the result of doing all the stuff you just said.

Quote from: K-DogIn socialism everyone would be at my level.

Seems like that is what the Soviets and Stalin were selling to their citizens as well.

I disagree that humans could ever make socialism work at the level you just described. We are talking about humans here, and George Orwell had what that means in our psyche before either of us were born.