10s of 10*6s starving is a drop in the bucket compared to 10*8 or more that will die when the fertilizer starts running short. Prior to the invention of the Haber process prior to WWII, the carrying capacity of the earth for homo sapiens was estimated at no more than 1.6-2B people. At the time, Fritz Haber estimated they only had about 5-10 years before they hit the max.
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Based on estimates by agricultural scientists such as Vaclav Smil, the Earth's carrying capacity for humans prior to the invention of the Haber-Bosch process (early 20th century) was approximately 1.6 to 2 billion people, or roughly a quarter the population that can be supported today with synthetic fertilizers.
The goal of getting more people back into agriculture wasn't wrong, it was just poorly implemented and rushed. Had it been followed through with back then, we never would have got into the situation of having 8.3B people ambulating around terra firma in the first place.
The Great Depression, bad management, poor planning and weaponization of starvation as means to squash the Ukrainian independence movement caused the Holodomor. Castro and the Cubans had very good results with their collectivization of farming, and the Israelis have had good results with their Kibbutzes. When they are not dropping bombs killing and maiming towel head kids, they run very efficient communal farms.
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