Quote from: RE on Aug 11, 2026, 05:14 AMAs I have said many times, Collapse is a process, not an event.

Yes, you have said that. And others have DEFINED what collapse is.....a quantifiable part of that process being species population decline. So....we are still waiting around for the process to be officially kicked off. "Species" <> "Country".

Quote from: REPopulation is just one of the indicators.

But one that, as a signal of collapse, is defined, and would be undeniable. As compared to the relative, insignificant and imagined ones invented on the internet. I don't know WHY those who, for some reason, REALLY REALLY want to say it is happening. Jim Jones and Ugo snd Gail and Catton demonstrate this regularly. Not so much anymore, and with a far smaller audience is my bet.

Didn't you once mention on your WordPress blog you were looking for the big bucks out of Doom and a following to provide it? Based on? Pitching collapse concepts, solutions, parts near Inman showing how the Amish live because the world was going to be there soon? SUN was founded with that idea. Concepts are nice. Collapse reality is something else. If it HAD been happening, when you were attempting to monetize it, by the definition of what collapse is as I've discussed, they would be too busy trying to stay alive than hand you any spare change along the way. CFS.

Quote from: RELike a ball rolling over a hill, it slows as it reaches the top and then begins to pick up speed as it begins its downward journey. 

I'll take than analogy. The ball certainly decelerates as it reaches the top of a hill, baring any outside influence. That happened on 1970 on Earth Day, when obviously the world was informed of the oncoming collapse. Global freezing, lack of food, hundreds of millions starving. Jimmy Carter validated oil collapse by announcing the world would run out by the end of the 80's. So...the question isn't whether or not the ball is decelerating, the question is how many more half centuries of happily rolling along can the ball do, as obviously far more influential and credentialed folks already demonstrated they didn't know dick about it. Effectively, all the internet did was allow every Tom, Dick and Harry to inexpertly chime in. Like....Jim Jones, Heaven's Gaters, and Koresch. Doomers all, with slightly different angles.

Bad things happening, which have been happening since the dawn of time, might reach collapse. Given enough time, of COURSE collapse will happen. After all, the Sun is getting 40 million tons a second lighter! We are CERTAINLY doomed. But that is hard to monetize, even being a scientific fact.

Quote from: REGlobally, we are just about at the top of the hill and just beginning the trip down.  The speed of depopulation will pick up as we move along the path.

RE

You only mentioned speed of the ball. How about its velocity? The ball isn't going up the hill linearly, it is spiraling around the hill, on a generally upward trajectory. Every time you look to the top of the hill, you can see it, right there! But then the ball travels laterally along a cone shaped hill, moving dozens of feet for every inch higher in elevation.

Which is why everyone and their grandmother who claims the end if nigh if looking 88 degrees off the plane of balls forward motion, to a place where they will never see because the ball has to circle to hill another 1000 times before it gets there.