Quote from: K-Dog on Nov 12, 2023, 08:38 PMConcerning our situation, It's the oil stupid.  But no mention of energy through the entire video.  And the climate is presented as something you can believe in or not.

You are correct, energy is not mentioned at any point, nor is the MIT Limits to Growth model.  NO video at this point which purports to examine probable causes for our civilization collapse can be considered as complete without mentioning this study, and also the Olduvai theory Richard Duncan proposed in the late 1990s.  This video pops around all over the place basically skirting the issues and concluding that it's all in our own hands and our own choices as to whether there will be a collapse or not.  Even so, it doesn't tell you what those choices actually are that we could make here to not become Greenland Vikings or Rapa Nui.

One factoid mentioned I was not aware of is that apparently our old friend Sir Isaac Newton, inventor of the Calculus and famed for an apple dropping on his head elucidating the Theory of Gravity made his own prediction of Collapse, putting it out 350 years from his own era, circa 1700.  That puts it at 2050.  I was not aware of any such Newtonian prediction, and will see if I can find what he based it on.  If it has a good mathematical underpinning, it's so near to a perfect prediction already he gets the nod before the MIT folks as best in class predictions of Industrial Civilization collapse by a mathematician.  That is frankly amazing considering he knew nothing about oil and the steam engine had yet to be invented.  I must look into this further.

RE