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Started by RE, Apr 07, 2023, 09:45 PM

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RE

Shall we play a game?  Let's play Global Thermonuclear Monetary System Collapse.  :o

https://www.ft.com/content/61e2ddc3-1277-4f4d-9452-339ba3566269

Visualising US bank failures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXzNo0vR_dU

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RE

Contagion.  The C-word that leads to Crisis and Collapse.

https://www.manilatimes.net/2023/05/08/opinion/columns/us-banking-crisis-in-a-new-stage-of-contagion/1890416

US banking crisis in a new stage of contagion

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FarmGirl

Quote from: RE on May 09, 2023, 02:33 AMContagion.  The C-word that leads to Crisis and Collapse.

https://www.manilatimes.net/2023/05/08/opinion/columns/us-banking-crisis-in-a-new-stage-of-contagion/1890416

US banking crisis in a new stage of contagion

RE

Eh. Not much new there. Contagion is certainly a catchy word in place of "bankers doing what bankers do in order to make big bonuses knowing they'll ultimately get bailed out by GovCo".

There was an article on the old site talking about commercial real estate risks probably more than a year ago now, it seemed to have some of this pegged, but the banks literally betting the bank on the cost of money remaining low just seems so...blaise. Certainly could cause another 2008 wipeout though. For some folks it might be another "once in a generation" buying opportunity. Last time it was residential real estate and a market rebound, this time it might just be the market rebound. I wonder if Eddie would consider getting into the commercial real estate market if things crashed there hard enough? He seemed to do well getting into the residential/rental side of things the last time.

RE

Yes, though it's likely to be an order of magnitude worse.

Here's to hoping JP Morgan goes belly up in this cycle. 🤞🏽  It would be nice to see Jamie Dimon take it in the shorts at least once.  Of course, he'll float down gently with a Golden Parachute, but it's nice in a symbolic way.

https://unherd.com/thepost/is-a-2008-style-credit-crisis-imminent/

Is a 2008-style credit crisis imminent?

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AGelbert

#19
Quote from: RE on May 09, 2023, 02:33 AMContagion.  The C-word that leads to Crisis and Collapse.

https://www.manilatimes.net/2023/05/08/opinion/columns/us-banking-crisis-in-a-new-stage-of-contagion/1890416

US banking crisis in a new stage of contagion

RE

True. I expect those with blood pressure issues will be at increased risk.

To whom it may 😕 concern:



K-Dog

Quote from: AGelbert on May 15, 2023, 01:45 PMTrue. I expect those with blood pressure issues will be at increased risk.

The universe never stops coming up with new ways to make my head explode.

AGelbert

#21
Quote from: K-Dog on May 15, 2023, 02:16 PM
Quote from: AGelbert on May 15, 2023, 01:45 PMTrue. I expect those with blood pressure issues will be at increased risk.

The universe never stops coming up with new ways to make my head explode.

You ain't seen nothing yet.



FarmGirl

Quote from: AGelbert on May 15, 2023, 01:45 PM
Quote from: RE on May 09, 2023, 02:33 AMContagion.  The C-word that leads to Crisis and Collapse.

https://www.manilatimes.net/2023/05/08/opinion/columns/us-banking-crisis-in-a-new-stage-of-contagion/1890416

US banking crisis in a new stage of contagion

RE

True. I expect those with blood pressure issues will be at increased risk.

To whom it may 😕 concern:


What is "white coat hypertension"?

RE

Quote from: FarmGirl on May 15, 2023, 05:01 PMWhat is "white coat hypertension"?

It's when your BP rises whenever somebody wearing a white lab coat comes over to take your BP.  Many people have this reaction and you get diagnosed as having chronic hypertension when you really don't.

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RE

The really annoying thing about banking insolvency these days is the alphabet soup of bailout agencies that keep shifting around and restructuring the debt to stave off bankruptcies.  The debt is still there, the bank gets more and more insolvent because the new money comes very expensive, but it delays the inevitable collapse.  So even though the piss poor condition of the banking system has been obvious for months going back to even before the collapse of SVB and Republic and every financial guru from Dr. Doom to Jeremy Grantham and Jim Cramer keeps hooting about an oncoming train wreck, it takes so fucking long to play out it makes you want to tear your hair out by the roots if you are a follower of this kind of nonsense.  Just get it over with already!  ::)

https://www.benzinga.com/news/23/07/33155886/second-wave-of-banking-crisis-incoming-crash-could-be-worse-than-2008-global-financial-crisis-says-e

Second Wave Of Banking Crisis Incoming, Crash Could Be Worse Than 2008 Global Financial Crisis, Says Expert

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RE

There's certainly plenty of talk going round about the oncoming train wreck of the banking system, commercial RE is just one more piece of the puzzle.  Also not sure how much "work from home" is to blame, the big tech companies don't like it.  So called productivity increases aren't there and managerial level folks have a harder time cracking the whip as "boss".l  Mostly I think it's just plain old downsizing as these companies shrink or go outta biz.  Whatever thee cause, it's bound to deflate the market, not good news for the banks.  Takes a long time to play out though, so I'm sure they have a magic act to fix it.

https://www.inc.com/jennifer-conrad/why-siete-family-foods-is-giving-2-million-to-latino-businesses.html

The Coming Bank Crisis No One Is Talking About

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RE

A nice concise explanation of the ongoing banking crisis and the reason for the downward spiral that becomes self reinforcing and about impossible to stop.  The key is in this one sentence...

The economy operates on credit expansion which is why it's very rare to see bank credit contract.

Another way of saying the same thing is just substitute the word "Debt" for "Credit", because for every credit extended, somebody else has a debit on their balance sheet.  The economy, all the money we use is DEBT.  Somebody somewhere has to extend credit and somebody else somewhere has to take on debt in order to have any money at all flowing around in the economy. Once the banks stop handing out the loans, the economy grinds to a halt.  Down goes the Titanic.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4617317-an-update-on-the-banking-crisis

An Update On The Banking Crisis

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K-Dog

#27
When banks create money they do not create energy.  They do not create copper or trees.  The money is leant out and must be paid back.  Interest compounds.  New debt must be issued to pay for old debt, and the money supply always increases.

Printing brings money into existence as does numbers transferred to a bank account balance.  Once created, money is loaned out to be spent on real things, to service debt the social super organism  grows.  Real things must be built and so they are.   The debt demands it and ever more energy and materials must be used.

Energy and materials.  Stuff that in a world of 8,000,000,000 becomes hard to get. 

Too hard to get.  The social super organism can't eat.  Economic failures, defaults and unemployment result.  Supply chain failures.  Out of business signs and empty office buildings.  There is no profit to feed old debt.

Across the globe debt is now 350 to 400 percent GDP.

What would this be like on an individual level?


You earn 100k a year and you owe the bank 350K.  At the end of the year your credit card balance is bigger than it was last year.  This is a pattern for you.

You are in danger of being laid off, and that raise you got does not cover the increased cost of everything.

Your life is about to change.

Like it or not?



You won't.


K-Dog

#28
The economic divide widens.

  • The number of Americans making hardship withdrawals from their 401(k) accounts increased by 36% in the second quarter of 2023 compared to the previous year, according to Bank of America data.
  • This increase in hardship withdrawals reflects growing financial distress among Americans due to factors such as high inflation and rising household debt.
  • Despite the rise in withdrawals, the average 401(k) balance in the U.S. increased by 9.6% since the end of 2022, indicating some positive growth in retirement savings.

Since 2019, household debt balances have increased by nearly $3 trillion, according to New York Federal Reserve data through the first quarter of 2023.

On Tuesday, the New York Fed reported that US households' credit card debt surpassed the $1 trillion mark for the first time ever. The $45 billion increase in credit card debt helped to drive overall household debt levels to $17.06 trillion at the end of the second quarter.

How much is this.  Waldo is in the lower left.

17 of these: .

Those are $100 bills



But enough mind boggling.  More people are drawing down what they have but deposits increase.

This means rich people have more money.  Again.

RE

It appears as though the financial house of cards is entering an accelerating phase of collapse, as the core Bond market product of US Treasury bills yield moves over the 5% mark for the 1st time in decades.  As you should know, this means the price of these bills is falling, because the yield curve moves inversely to the price curve.  It's getting more expensive to print new money and for Da Goobermint to borrow from the real source of power, the international banking cartel composed of banks like JP Morgan Chase, Citibank< Lloyds of London, the Bank of Rothschild, etc.  All this against the backdrop of soaring inflation and a zombie real estate market.  Is this finally the Big One, a 30 meter high Tsunami beginning to roll in from an earthquake centered under Davos in Switzerland?  Time will tell.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/bonds/treasury-bond-yields-market-selloff-market-crashes-dot-com-bubble-2023-10

The collapse in Treasury bonds now ranks among the worst market crashes in history

RE