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    Started by K-Dog Jan 09, 2024, 01:39 PM

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    K-Dog

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    Jan 09, 2024, 01:39 PM
    Quote from: RE on Jan 09, 2024, 10:51 AM
    Quote from: K-Dog on Jan 09, 2024, 10:30 AMAnd you are 100% wrong.

    No, I am 100% right.  Do any of those hard working factory workers get rich?  No.  Does the factory owner who watches the hard work get rich?  Yes.  Therefore, doing hard work does not get you rich, watching hard work done by others gets you rich.

    RE

    Marx distinguishes between two stages: socialism where scarcity is still present and where equal rules will be applied to unequal people (those who work hard, are smarter or luckier will earn more), and the highest stage of development, under communism, when, as the famous formula says, "everybody will contribute according to their abilities and receive according to their needs".

    Communism cannot be realized, but it remains the goal.  I am a socialist.

    And before anybody get their undies in a bunch about '(those who work hard, are smarter or luckier will earn more)' as RE points out.  The rules we have are ANYTHING BUT EQUAL!  and the extreme between those  (those who work hard, are smarter or luckier will earn more) can get down to a reasonable ratio like three to 1 in a more just system.

    Imagine a world where the spread of income was three to one instead of a million to one AS IT IS NOW.  It would be a world next to paradise.   And all dogs would eat.  Doctors get the good horses.

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