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    - This Woman Turned Her Tesla Model 3 Into a Pickup Truck

    Started by K-Dog Feb 03, 2024, 11:14 AM

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    Feb 03, 2024, 11:14 AM
    Quote from: RE on Feb 03, 2024, 07:58 AMThe only way I can see is to use the rail system and truck only from rail hubs to distribution points.  However, the rail network would need to absorb all the freight currently using the interstate highways.  I don't think it has the capacity for that.

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    Table 1

    Summary data for comparing energy transmission costs in $/mile, $/MWh, and $/mile-MW
                             Electrical        Liquid Pipeline               Gas Pipeline
    Energy carrier    HVDC    Crude Oil    MeOH    EtOH    NG    H2
    Total flow (Amp, kg/s)    6,000    1,969    1,863    1,859    368.9    69.54
    Delivered power (MWe, MWLHV)    2,656    91,941    37,435    50,116    17,391    8,360
    Capital cost ($M/mile)    $3.90    $1.47    $1.92    $1.92    $1.69    $1.38
    Power loss in transmission    12.9%    0.78%    2.02%    1.51%    2.67%    1.94%
    Capital cost ($/mile-MW)    $1,502    $16    $51    $38    $97    $166
    Amortized cost ($/MWh/1000 mi)    $41.5    $0.77    $2.2    $1.7    $3.7    $5.0

    Where I got this pile of facts.

    I really do mean pile of facts.  It is quite a jumble.  Not the be all and end all but a place to start.

    What does it mean for electricity to cost forty times what an oil pipeline costs to transmit the same power.  That ratio is huge, but an interstate itself is not cheap to build and maintain.  Would a parallel transmission line or two or three cost that much more?  I do not know. 

    Before any analysis is done the question of total power consumption by a normal fleet of trucks on a thousand miles of freeway has to be answered.  10,000?  Ten per mile?  That could mean a lot of transmission lines.

    Rail with truck hubs is definitely a better idea.  Trains are more aerodynamic and a better use of fuel anyway.

    The normal way to approach this problem, and the way I used to do it makes the circle of abstraction too small.  Solve the problem for one truck and multiply up leaves a lot out.  A more correct way asks all the questions.  Where does the power come from.  How much will all the power lines cost to build and maintain over fifty years?  And so on.  Questions that in the collective we are too lazy to ask.

    I usually stop my analysis when I get the answer I want.  Do you do different?  <-- rhetorical question

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