Quote from: monsta666 on Feb 10, 2024, 06:25 AMWhen it comes to terms like left or right-wing a lot of it is relative. ---- These days, despite its massive shortcomings, the belief in the overall system is high.

Yes, and that is the definition of conservatism.  And I'll add.  Contrary to popular belief, a persons sexual preference does not make them right or left.

QuoteIt is due to this faith that when people make criticisms it often directed at either corrupt politicians, power hungry corporations or some hidden "elite" that are the cause of these problems. In short, we have a management/leadership problem and not a systemic one.

Great observation, I think this rhymes with that definition of insanity about doing the same thing over and over again, always expecting a different result.

QuoteThe issue here is even if we got rid of all those bad politicians, brought big corp to heel AND got the guillotine out to kill the elite (who have addresses) this wouldn't be enough to solve things.

But it would give RE something to do.

QuoteMoreover, the vast majority of people still believe the narrative that our ingenuity and technology will find a solution to any problem. Global warming and resource depletion are just temporary roadblocks to our inevitable progress to that Star Trek future. To get this future and make America great again we just need the right people to direct things and everything will be okay.

Yes, I was forced to learn math so the binary yes no conclusion that everything will work out and that we have temporary roadblocks does not work for me.  I did not eat enough lead base paint chips when I was a kid so I did not get slowed down enough like everyone else in my generation did.  I became a freak.  I have know about the limits to growth since it was published.


The world is hollow and I have touched the sky.