Quote from: TDoS on Feb 24, 2024, 04:09 PMQuote from: K-Dog on Jan 22, 2024, 10:57 AMPeople do not believe in anything unless they have a reason. And when they want something bad enough the reasons they find depart from reality.
It sounds as though you have just provided the causal mechanism for all the peak oil claims of the early 21st century. Bravo Sir!
I can agree with you. But claims go both ways. So which is easier to find? Someone who says the world is getting warmer because that is what the world wants to do, with nothing to do with humans. And that wee have oil enough for 500 years. Or someone who says this shit is going to be so hard to get in twenty years that our society must collapse and people will starve.
Which is the more popular delusion? If you are having trouble. I suggest door number one.
M. King Hubbert however is in a class by himself. He was the leading American geologist. He also was not wrong. What blew most peak oil claims up is that the proponents were too attached to a single peak. They were enamored with the simplicity and did not look deeper. The truth is that the amount which can be extracted has increased with advancement of technology and the state of the art. This moves the peak but does not turn the idea of peak oil into bullshit. Reality actually suggests the ride down the peak will resemble a Seneca cliff. When the state of the art is lost it does not come back.
A doomer with a scientific bent, and that fully describes me, realizes that things are working out exactly as we thought they would twenty-five years ago. The timeline is working out different, and that is all. That does not mean much to me. Just because people can't predict exactly when something is going to happen does not mean it will not happen. Collapse happens like the Iceland volcanoes erupt. You will drive yourself crazy following 'predictions' of eruptions which are sure to happen. Check every day, and after a few weeks of no eruption you will think the volcano will not erupt. You have sour grapes. Then the volcano erupts Like it did twice last year.
So it is with collapse.