Quote from: RE on May 05, 2024, 11:20 AM

Quote from: K-Dog on May 05, 2024, 10:59 AMThere are no more housing starts in the deep burbs and the dense city planning urban planners want is well under way.

So, in cities where we already don't have enough affordable housing, all the MaMansion dwellers are going to try and move back in so they have to drive less?  Where are all these new homes going to be built?  Urban density in NYC is already packed like sardines.  All the Bridge & Tunnel people from Long Island, Westchester and New Jersey are going to squeeze in also?

RE

The housing has to be made affordable.  You are giving the exact reason why the initial rate has to start low and be under the control of a citizens assembly.

QuoteSo, in cities where we already don't have enough affordable housing, all the MaMansion dwellers are going to try and move back in so they have to drive less?

Lack of planning made the existing system.  Replacing chaos with something that makes sense will not happen without pain.  Cities with not enough affordable housing die.  As it should be.

Cities which take care of their housing issues will own the future.  As it should be.

But your fear is unfounded.   Carbon Fee and Dividend is a sea change in attitude and behavior.  With Fee and Dividend all sorts of programs to fix housing issues now become required, and not simply desired or farts of wishful thinking. 

Fee and dividend will not happen in isolation.  If you want affordable housing solved, adopt Fee and Dividend.  People will be forced to solve housing issues.  They will have no choice.  Currently the choice is to do nothing, so I would not worry about something coming along and disrupting current efforts to rectify the situation because there are no such efforts that amount to beans.

Once upon a time necessity was the mother of invention.  It can be again.