Quote from: RE on Jan 30, 2025, 11:08 PMRoughly 40% of 1st marriages end in divorce, so regardless how you meet and get to know your spouse prior to the wedding, there's a pretty good chance it won't last.

A near majority qualifier on your more absolutist original statement if there ever was one. So much for sniff testing  IRL being the be all and end all of trust I guess.

Quote from: REOnce was enough for me, I didn't enjoy being married at all.  Sticking to just 1 sex partner was a real problem for both of us.

So your interpretation of marriage started off as just a way to get action regularly, as opposed to a partner, thick and thin, till death due us part?

Quote from: REAlso it's hard enough for me just to keep myself happy, trying to keep the wife happy also was way too much work.

Indeed. No one ever mentioned marriages were work when I was a kid, or of what type, before I got married. Well, maybe mom did. When she kicked me out of the house for doing it. She was right. The idea of someone being scared off by the work of a relationship is interesting, because it presumes that all things of value should be easy and fun and guilty free.

Probably comes down to how we were raised. You had a non-Illuminati mother, did she not instill some good ol' fashioned "show me state" fundamental precepts along the way, before all the hedonism, NYC cool kid high schools and Illuminati grooming came along to turn your ego into what it later became?

Quote from: REI couldn't find enough positive outcomes from being married to outweigh the negative ones, so I concluded I wasn't cut out for marriage.  Got out fairly quickly and painlessly and never made the mistake again.
RE

Well, if the quick and painless route is your primary goal in life, marriage can be a pain at times. I remember thinking about the "hedonism uber alles" thing once, watching the rich kids helicopter off the lawn in front of the main school building in high school, back to mansions and holidays in Aruba and that kind of stuff.

What is that quote, "we all end up where we were meant to be"? Certainly seems to have worked out for both of us.