Quote from: TDoS on Feb 20, 2025, 05:20 PMQuote from: K-Dog on May 21, 2024, 08:32 AMChildren who do not leave home do not contribute to maintaining the home or offsetting expenses.
Says who? I understand the rule of us geriatrics not discussing "them", but this statement makes no sense in light of experience.
Says me, and we need the whole quote.
QuoteChildren who do not leave home do not contribute to maintaining the home or offsetting expenses. There is no magic moment when they have an epiphany telling them it is time to stop being a useless eater and pull their weight.
Road to Damascus moments are never a given, so there really is not much to defend here. We are living in a time where the necessities in life are taken for granted. Previous generations had more of a 'but for the grace of god go we' sort of attitude. They were pragmatic, and while superstitious they did not believe in magic. Like stuff just happens.
Growing up in the geriatric generation and living at home with your parents meant you were a 'wuse'. Something was wrong with you , and you were shunned. People who did not take care of their own shit were looked down upon. But somewhere in our land of unearned riches this all changed. Once working kids were shown the door at 18. That was the way it was. Graduate high school and you were on your own. You were no longer a child, you were an adult. Like it or not. Now things have changed, and a free ride is not looked down upon.
Society moved into phase where the values of individual work and sacrifice represented by previous generations are considered outdated and irrelevant by current culture. Consumption and instant gratification now define American values. This has been true for a while, but we have entered a terminal phase.
Concerning the need for the whole quote.
QuoteThere is no magic moment when they have an epiphany
Circumstances make men. In extended adolescence men cannot be made.
* Your personal experience may be different, and that is fine. My statement is a sweeping generalization of social conditions and is not meant to be personal. In personal circumstances YMMV. Specifically my statement came from the results of a study that examined how much children who worked but lived at home contributed to the household compared to those who lived at home without a job. Those who worked contributed in all ways more than young men who did not, and we are not talking about money. This is a studied fact.
And my sweeping generalization is factual.