Quote from: K-Dog on Jun 05, 2025, 06:35 AM

QuoteYou do this thing....plug in my username as a target and assign all your anti-capitalist irritation to it.

Nobody makes you come here, but I could be wrong about that.  Who does?

Notice the structure of the ask. "Nobody makes you come here"....quite correct...."but I could be wrong". But you aren't. And then the presumption that someone does, negating the apparent honest ask of the first 5 words.

A transition from a statement that is accurate, to uncertainty, to outright "well gee I didn't mean what I said at all". In 14 words.

A wonderful demonstration of why I asked exactly the question in the quote you referenced. And then completely ignored.

I was just asking why your ire is pointed at me, in terms of anti-capitalist irritation. I would understand if your answer was "because you are a capitalist!" and with your different political leanings that would make perfect sense. I suck because I lean capitalist. But you can't even bring yourself to just blurt that out. Why?

Were you always working class man aware in terms of your life? Or did this political uber-alles perspective come about later?

Quote from: K-Dog

QuoteYour indignation over American rich screwing over the poor is something you've known since when? We were taught about robber barons in the 3rd grade American history in the old church converted into a little coal towns 3rd-4th grade school house.

"Everybody does it" isn't a defense.  It's a confession. You learned about the robber barons in 3rd grade?

I didn't even HINT at "everybody does it". Again, you assign something to me that wasn't written or implied. The quote referenced was just me acknowledging that in American history the rich screwing over the poor has a long history. It isn't new. And yes, while the tiny church turned school house in a pipsqueak coal town wasn't much, there were books and basic learning (admittedly I was a book junkie since I learned to read, so I might have been ahead of the curve as it were in my learning at the time). That such wealth existed was fascinating. 

Quote from: K-DogThis means you've had decades to figure out that exploitation doesn't excuse more exploitation.

This means I've had decades to develop my own political leanings, which don't happen to resemble yours. All people who don't agree with your politics by definition the enemy? A "my way or the highway" type of thing?

So when did you figure out that exploitation exists? Was it local experience, history books, or only after you got older and into the EE business?

Quote from: K-DogAccepting theft and cruelty because it's old news doesn't make you insightful, it makes you complicit.

See..you are so far down this self-referential schema that I don't even know what to say. Who said I accept theft and cruelty? Who DOESN'T recognize that man has been shitty to man in far more ways than just politics and money since the first biped clubbed another to death for a female with a heavy wooden club?

And does knowing this history of species somehow mean I think it is a great idea? Says who? You are outraged at a basic human behavior going on at least since the Pharoahs were ruling Egypt, and pretending somehow that I think it is just great! As opposed to what it is....a clinical acceptance of the human condition that certainly should be changed.

And doesn't appear to have a solution yet.

Quote from: K-DogFraming my indignation as naïve or out-of-touch with reality is what bullies do.  Your attack tries to shame anyone who dares call out corruption.

I have no IDEA where you indignation or naivet comes from...THAT IS WHY I HAVE BEEN ASKING WHERE IT COMES FROM. I don't presume you were BORN thinking Marx had the answers to the ills of America, I have noted that you seem to avoid any response to a basic observation that the ways Marx's ideas were put into use didn't seem to cure the underlying issues you detail frequently.

And what ATTACK? Asking questions? My ingrained talent is it is easy for me to be an observer with zero give a fucks about a topic....and when asked to investigate a topic....discover solutions or answers or new processes to solve a problem. It isn't an ATTACK to disagree with someone...it is just a different perspective.

Quote from: K-DogYou were not taught Robber-Baron history to accept injustice.  You were taught robber baron history so you'd recognize it, with the hope you would resist it. But you twisted your lesson into apathy, and a laziness that wants to normalize, and declare  bullshit delicious.

Oh just PLEASE. Again...first the windup, and then full blown assignment as to who and what I am, and how I think.