attack on Iran Even CNN reported that this sort of idea of two weeks and there's somehow there it's a game of deception Of course to keep Therron confused Your take on what's going on U can I make an introduction IA before I answer your question Go ahead Because we need to talk about St Petersburg Yeah Uh it was the most important forum in Russia this year and I heard from global south businessmen in St Petersburg that for them is much more important than Davos Why Because they are doing business This morning uh the organizers in St Petersburg they announced that uh okay this is not the final count over $80 billion dollar of deals were signed in St Petersburg that's enormous by any standards and the great thing is these are global south deals this is not uh international banking system.
count over $80 billion dollar of deals were signed in St Petersburg that's enormous by any standards and the great thing is these are global south deals this is not uh international banking system this is not black rock you know the usual suspects these are African nations uh India and Pakistan were there uh the Pakistanis they sent ministers you know uh the Gulf cooperation council Bahin was one of the guests of honor Southeast Asia Everybody from Southeast Asia was there and of course scores of African nations So and obviously Central Asia Russia China There was so just to give you an idea there was uh in the middle of uh on Wednesday there was uh Russia China business panel packed totally packed people out of the room because they couldn't get into the room businessmen from both sides.
there was uh in the middle of uh on Wednesday there was uh Russia China business panel packed totally packed people out of the room because they couldn't get into the room businessmen from both sides local governors in Russia different oblasts and everybody uh talking business and uh uh the local go Russian government saying look the Chinese are investing in this this this this project amazing stuff you know uh there was a wonderful panel which our friend Apollo Batista he he was the star of the panel online can imagine Paulo talked online for less than 10 minutes and told the show it was a panel uh about um a possible reform of the international financial system and the Russians there was a there was a Chinese there was one Chinese as they were too uh careful they you know ah we have to.
panel uh about um a possible reform of the international financial system and the Russians there was a there was a Chinese there was one Chinese as they were too uh careful they you know ah we have to go little by little one step at a time and all that and Paulo says the real thing no we have to go for broke and our window of opportunity is is you know it's quite small and the the real important reforms they have to start now which is what the Russians were saying and working for last year before the brick summit in Kazan last year because as we all know the summit is in Brazil this year everything is slowing down the Brazilian way but at least we have people like Paulo one of the founders of the MDB new development bank He knows that there's got to be a structural reform of the NDP and.
is slowing down the Brazilian way but at least we have people like Paulo one of the founders of the MDB new development bank He knows that there's got to be a structural reform of the NDP and all that And this is something that is practically not discussed even in Russia and in China So you know these kinds of conversations only in a forum like this you you can have it We had our own panel I I was on a panel on fake news which went way uh beyond that because we were discussing um control of information artificial intelligence and the fact that now fake news is going to be digitally produced by big tech itself This is one of the key themes Uh there was for instance a very high ranking executive of a spare bank the number one Russian bank and he was giving figures about fake news not only.
by big tech itself This is one of the key themes Uh there was for instance a very high ranking executive of a spare bank the number one Russian bank and he was giving figures about fake news not only Russia but absolutely astonishing and of course when you compare to the latest information about uh Palunteer in fact Palunteer now is inside embedded in the US federal government So we have a huge AI company okay let's say among the top high-tech companies in the west now dictating policy How serious is that These people already do uh AI models for the Israelis to kill Palestinians So you know it's getting worse by the minute And of course uh uh the uh these Russians uh these Russian friends they started um an organization that the merit of this organizations is enormous It's called Global.
it's getting worse by the minute And of course uh uh the uh these Russians uh these Russian friends they started um an organization that the merit of this organizations is enormous It's called Global Factchecking Network uh GFCN You can find them online They have their own website Uh lots of uh people have joined including myself and we are trying to maybe um set up a blueprint about uh controlling fake news checking fake news and get this conversation going to the point that it would land on the bricks table Of course it's not going to be in Rio in a few days you know but the next brick summit next year in South Africa and then if you have this discussed by the bricks there's a strong possibility that we can have uh just an example uh the beginning of a bricks net or a bricks tube or a.
next year in South Africa and then if you have this discussed by the bricks there's a strong possibility that we can have uh just an example uh the beginning of a bricks net or a bricks tube or a all around bricks alternative media sphere because we cannot simply be subjected to the big tech platforms because we know exactly where it's going with the former PayPal mafia with this very very dangerous characters Peter T and Alex Karp and the fact that they are now part of the US government it's even even more dangerous so the forum was this forum is changing Nema it's great because used to be too generalistic until next year This year there were lots of panels that were extremely practical and people discussing possible solutions Everything from geoeconomics to the IT sphere and of course.
too generalistic until next year This year there were lots of panels that were extremely practical and people discussing possible solutions Everything from geoeconomics to the IT sphere and of course the overarching theme the dark cloud over all of us is your question Iran Israel and US and what is US going to do Um the everybody was waiting for the plenary session which was yesterday right with President Putin But first great thing about the plenary session the global south was represented on stage at the plenary session we had China Indonesia Bahrain and South Africa How cool is that This is a a sample of the global south uh with the the guest of honor the president of Indonesia prao Southeast Asia which puts Putin sees as one of the two top areas of development in the near future.
This is a a sample of the global south uh with the the guest of honor the president of Indonesia prao Southeast Asia which puts Putin sees as one of the two top areas of development in the near future Southeast Asia and Africa and of course Putin indirectly uh very diplomatically he answered these questions about Iran Uh it's very clear in the Russian position Iran has absolute inaliable rights to have a civilian nuclear program which is what they have at the moment Number one Number two Putin said that he received personal assurances from Trump and from Netanyahu that they are not going to bomb Busher plant because there are over 200 ultra high tech Russian technicians working at Busher So obviously we we can imagine the conversation right putting on the phone say don't touch Busher and.
bomb Busher plant because there are over 200 ultra high tech Russian technicians working at Busher So obviously we we can imagine the conversation right putting on the phone say don't touch Busher and the other two like this because they know the consequences if that happens Number three extremely important There's a lot of criticism um partially in Russia from let's say the Russian Atlanticist gang but mostly AC across the global north that Russia is not doing enough to um help Iran Putin said explicitly these people who are pedling this notion they are provocators provocati literal translation from from Russian So this means we can infer that of course they are helping discreetly Iran in this is a a taboo subject here uh Nema we cannot discuss this publicly I asked people close to the.
from from Russian So this means we can infer that of course they are helping discreetly Iran in this is a a taboo subject here uh Nema we cannot discuss this publicly I asked people close to the government about it no answers So we discussed this with the people from think tanks for instance Uh and the answer that they they they give is very similar to the answer that I received in Yemen when I asked a member of the high political council What are your exactly your relations with Russia and China And basically he said very diplomatically yes we have our own channels So obviously Thran and Moscow they have their own channels and obviously nobody here is going to expose these channels and what is the level of collaboration and help from Russia to Iran Same thing about China uh I discussed.
they have their own channels and obviously nobody here is going to expose these channels and what is the level of collaboration and help from Russia to Iran Same thing about China uh I discussed this for instance with my friend professor Jeang wei way he was in this uh China Russ audience as then he had he had to go to his own panel and he said of course there is but this is uh uh this is not in the open in cannot be in the open in China and it's not the Chinese way of doing the Chinese are extremely discreet especially when it comes to helping a partner that for them is a matter of national security as you know Very well Nema It's not only that deal which is not 10 years it's actually 20 years the $400 billion plus deal between Iran and China energy and infrastructure Uh so it's a matter.
security as you know Very well Nema It's not only that deal which is not 10 years it's actually 20 years the $400 billion plus deal between Iran and China energy and infrastructure Uh so it's a matter of national security for China and whatever happens Iran will have China's back China will have Iran's back I'm sorry So so it was good to have even if we had let's say tur and tentative answers but basically you got answers to these questions you know and it was good that this came out in the plenary session especially apart from that ju just to close this introduction the atmosphere was was buzzing everywhere you could you you could feel that there were deals being struck all the time I gave an example in my telegram column I interviewed a high power Chinese CEO dressed Hong Kong style She.
everywhere you could you you could feel that there were deals being struck all the time I gave an example in my telegram column I interviewed a high power Chinese CEO dressed Hong Kong style She said she's going to move she's going to live in Hong Kong next year H currently she is in Beijing Her company wants to invest in Donetsk This is something that nobody in the west knows In fact then my my Donbas friends they organized an interview with the number two of Donetsk Uh he great guy and he said "Look it's not only this lady that you just talked to I every day I receive inquiries from Chinese companies They want to come here and see the investment possibilities. " And he said minerals obviously coal for obvious reasons Now uh Donbas's Donbas is cool oblast or republic uh transportation.
companies They want to come here and see the investment possibilities. " And he said minerals obviously coal for obvious reasons Now uh Donbas's Donbas is cool oblast or republic uh transportation which includes connectivity corridors overland and maritime via maropo and tourism because they know the possibilities of of tourism including for China because uh it's a beautiful region Um Marupo could become uh quite something a mix of a spe um uh special economic zone uh important port and a tourism hub as well So um if you don't go to a forum like this you are literally uh blinded by the western narrative And of course everybody I I talked to people people from Astrakan for instance which is part of the international north south transportation corp they love talking to foreign uh journalists.
narrative And of course everybody I I talked to people people from Astrakan for instance which is part of the international north south transportation corp they love talking to foreign uh journalists and analysts because they are of course you know it's impossible for them to talk to the west and they are doing absolutely amazing stuff uh in ter in terms of integration they talk about how the federal government is investing a lot in all these oblasts and these uh public private uh partnerships So this is just to give you and our audience a small glimpse of how important this forum was Even all of us hostages of this absolutely horrendous situation in West Asia You have over 10, 000 people over there for three days non-stop networking and doing business So this is the future and it's not.
all of us hostages of this absolutely horrendous situation in West Asia You have over 10, 000 people over there for three days non-stop networking and doing business So this is the future and it's not it's no wonder that one of the most important quotes from Putin during his plenary session is that he said we uh not only uh we Russia we are betting on bricks as the future but we are betting on the constitution of a new growth model with everything that implicates new growth model something completely different to what we have since 1945 When it comes to you mentioned the situation in in the Middle East in the West Asia between Iran and Israel was discussed How as as I mentioned in my first question h what is the latest development in the region How do you find in the west When you look at.
East in the West Asia between Iran and Israel was discussed How as as I mentioned in my first question h what is the latest development in the region How do you find in the west When you look at the mainstream media in the west they're saying Iran was defeated Iran was destroyed and unbelievable what's going on in the mainstream media It's totally they're totally changing their the reality of what's going on there You're because they're a machine of fake news Nema We know that uh in fact in my panel I described Brussels as a fake news machine In fact the whole collective fragmented decaying west is a fake news machine against anything It can be uh Iraq it can be Syria it can be Libya it can be Somalia and now it can be Gaza and especially Iran Not to mention everything concerning Russia.
west is a fake news machine against anything It can be uh Iraq it can be Syria it can be Libya it can be Somalia and now it can be Gaza and especially Iran Not to mention everything concerning Russia Every scene that escapes that uh little tiny uh window which we call collective west which in terms of Europe basically is a very very small peninsula of the big Eurasian continent and of course the US which in the fabulous definition of bismar of course they are safe on both sides they are surrounded by fish It's a beautiful definition of course So uh no and obviously um the US is even more provincial than Europe Europe at least you have nodes of you know looking around the world and trying to establish a a relationship with the world even if it's not mutual respect But the US is a.
more provincial than Europe Europe at least you have nodes of you know looking around the world and trying to establish a a relationship with the world even if it's not mutual respect But the US is a completely different story It always go back to manifest destiny exceptionalism shiny city on the hill all that crap you know regurgitated ad infinitum and the for instance the way they are incapable of understanding not only how the Iranian system works how do they make decisions what constitutes an existential threat to Iran how Iran h deals with his neighbors with the Arab world and with Eurasia at large and how Iran has been preparing for this war now for decades because they knew not because they are they are crystal ball readers but because they knew it would be inevitable It's a war of.
at large and how Iran has been preparing for this war now for decades because they knew not because they are they are crystal ball readers but because they knew it would be inevitable It's a war of the turbo capitalist system against the Islamic revolution This is the key And now the people behind it they think that they have an opening For instance I have a lot of respect for Sai Hersh Uh when I was growing up when I was still in college Sai Hersh was one of my mo role models as an investigative uh journalist But Sai uh there's a problem with Sai because first of all he doesn't know West Asia very well which is an enormous problem if you are an investigative journalist Well he basically concentrates in in Washington and his gigantic role decks He can pick up the phone and talk to anybody.
very well which is an enormous problem if you are an investigative journalist Well he basically concentrates in in Washington and his gigantic role decks He can pick up the phone and talk to anybody he wants in Washington This is fantastic Nobody has that kind of of access Right But for instance he writes a piece that is absolutely terrifying this week on his Substack basically reproducing what his sources which are deep uh industrial military complex deeper industrial military complex and Zionist silos working around Washington Virginia and Maryland And what what is it about It's about the war that they always wanted since at least 1998 If some of them they want this war since 1979 as you know very well Regime change in Iran Uh elimination of the Iranian civilian nuclear program.
the war that they always wanted since at least 1998 If some of them they want this war since 1979 as you know very well Regime change in Iran Uh elimination of the Iranian civilian nuclear program Elimination of Islamic ballistic missiles basically destroying Iran like they did like they destroyed Iraq without thinking obviously for one minute about uh Iranian capabilities geography you name it of course not these people don't first of all they don't understand they never learn anything from geography history and both so when you read Sihar's piece it is terrifying the level of stupidity and ignorance of these people is terrifying but the problem is some some of these people interviewed by Hirs they have access to decision making in Washington and that's what makes it even more dangerous.
ignorance of these people is terrifying but the problem is some some of these people interviewed by Hirs they have access to decision making in Washington and that's what makes it even more dangerous and it's a quite a collection of of sources you know so if these people actually believe in what they are doing so we better get ready for some sort of apocalypse really apocalypse later not apocalypse now and proving once again that the system in the US is irredeemable It cannot be changed They will only change if they were destroyed completely which is not going to we know it's not going to happen They're still very very powerful Even if they were defeated by the Houthis and now they want to be defeated by the IRGC right It took one month for the Houthis to destro destroy now to completely.
They're still very very powerful Even if they were defeated by the Houthis and now they want to be defeated by the IRGC right It took one month for the Houthis to destro destroy now to completely defeat and humiliate the US Navy So now they want to repeat that with the IRGC That's a really bad move But that's where we're going apparently So it is in every respect Nema It's terrifying because these people they are not illiterate They are not completely dumb but they are fanatic They are extremely misinformed they have uh positions of power in the nomenclature So in a sense I her speech was uh uh it was a public service for him to public something like this I like his style because he's not judgmental Basically he's reproducing what people told him you know but wow it's one of the most.
uh uh it was a public service for him to public something like this I like his style because he's not judgmental Basically he's reproducing what people told him you know but wow it's one of the most terrifying things I have read in my long long long life around the world Really Pepe when it comes to the attack on Iran and the way that Iran has responded so far if the if Israel is winning what does Donald Trump need to interfere in the conflict Why do they need to go and bomb Iran Israel is winning So let them win the war What's going on that Nema They can't win this war You know that I know that Our most of our audience I'm sure knows that In fact they are losing already They lost the strategic initiative They lost the aura of invincibility for them I I would say that this is a.
I know that Our most of our audience I'm sure knows that In fact they are losing already They lost the strategic initiative They lost the aura of invincibility for them I I would say that this is a psychological coup even worse than losing everything Nobody is afraid of the Israelis anymore Everybody knows that they are a killing machine But it's very very convenient to be a killing machine uh killing women children hospitals journalists humanitarian help etc from above with missiles try try to match yourself against a real regional power They are they are having their ass kicked little by little the Iranian way because Iran for the moment hasn't entered a war against Israel They are probing they it's a sort of a little by little escalation to achieve strategic deterrence which in some.
little the Iranian way because Iran for the moment hasn't entered a war against Israel They are probing they it's a sort of a little by little escalation to achieve strategic deterrence which in some aspects they they already have There are some serious gaps in their uh anti-aircraft defenses and anti-missile defenses which might maybe they might get help from Russia to plug these holes if they wanted um quoting Putin again Putin said we offered some stuff to Iran Iran said no we don't want it at least for now if they wanted Russia is willing to help them any way they can So even with the fact that they continue to be attacked by Israel several raids a day missiles targeted assassinations you name it But the destruction that they already inflicted in Tel Aviv and beyond is now.
with the fact that they continue to be attacked by Israel several raids a day missiles targeted assassinations you name it But the destruction that they already inflicted in Tel Aviv and beyond is now unimaginable for everyone Nobody could ever imagine that missiles will be destroying neighborhoods in Israel landing near Dona destroying most of the port of Hifa The mayor of Hifa is desperate now is begging for peace because his sport sooner or later is going to disappear just like uh a lot was bankrupt Hifa will disappear It's not it's not in in the equation anymore oil the oil refinery in in Hifa Same thing So Israel now for has I would say of their three ports they have maybe 30% left in Ashdod which is near Gaza so it's not very well located the other two are well one of them is.
in in Hifa Same thing So Israel now for has I would say of their three ports they have maybe 30% left in Ashdod which is near Gaza so it's not very well located the other two are well one of them is non-existence and the other one is slowly sinking so there is a different strategy that was re-elaborated it probably in the first 48 hours by the IRGC I say okay now it's different now it's not strategic patience anymore we going to go best by a thousand cuts and it's working it's working because the number one objective is very ambitious is to paralyze the Israeli economy and they are on the way to do that Nemo seriously with only two weeks Less than two weeks No with two weeks One week It was It started on Friday last week Yeah So exactly We We lose track Everything is so fast So a little.
to do that Nemo seriously with only two weeks Less than two weeks No with two weeks One week It was It started on Friday last week Yeah So exactly We We lose track Everything is so fast So a little over one week They already paralyzed We can say maybe half of the Israeli economy at least And these attacks on Raphael on the Wiseman Institute on unit 8, 200 this is pinpointed This is absolutely these are the key intel military nodes in Israel Both so you know the the Iranian strategy is calculally calculated We can say it is working They are paying a horrendous price No question because Iran continues to be bombed Uh they are they bombed the Iraq um reactor right Yeah Uh targeting assassinations in K near the shrine in K So there are no limits for these gangsters you but um we can say uh.
continues to be bombed Uh they are they bombed the Iraq um reactor right Yeah Uh targeting assassinations in K near the shrine in K So there are no limits for these gangsters you but um we can say uh with a measure of certainty that H& RGC they see the big picture ahead Of course if the Americans get what Four B2s dropping four bombs exactly at the same time vertically on the spot over four Then it's a completely new ball game as we know which by the way which is not that much possible I talk about it because when you hit the f when you first hit the target the explosion whatever is happening in the aftermath of that impact they're not you're not going to be able to to to hit the target again at the same point At the same point Exactly Nema Not to mention uh smoke debris etc You need.
in the aftermath of that impact they're not you're not going to be able to to to hit the target again at the same point At the same point Exactly Nema Not to mention uh smoke debris etc You need perfect visibility on top of it for your heads So c can you imagine that there's absolutely no one at the Pentagon to tell the president of the United States how completely absurd this whole idea is Apparently not right And the guy who's in charge that major imbecile gurilla who is an anti-Iranian islamophobe whatever No wonder he's the guy in charge of the whole operation and he's the guy convincing he's the guy convincing Trump and the whole notion is so absurd that even Trump himself apparently is not convinced Of course I would say a 5-year-old would not be convinced but that's where we are.
he's the guy convincing Trump and the whole notion is so absurd that even Trump himself apparently is not convinced Of course I would say a 5-year-old would not be convinced but that's where we are and and it gets more serious by the minute And I'm sure Putin um already via their privileged channels already told Trump look you have no idea what awaits you if you go along with this But at the same time Nema we all know it's not Trump who's making this decision The decision has already been made by the usual suspects behind They are forcing him to of course give the green light It's a completely different story And there are um uh echoes and shades telling us that uh he's he's now afraid because he is totally trapped in his own rhetorical game and in the Zio Con's long running game that.
different story And there are um uh echoes and shades telling us that uh he's he's now afraid because he is totally trapped in his own rhetorical game and in the Zio Con's long running game that comes since the end of the 1990s He's he's in an untenable position and we can already say that he lost the midterms His base half of his base is gone already So bye-bye He's going to be a lame duck after the midterms Not to mention they they might advance to try to impeach him again So it's wow The accumulation of horrors and absurdities is never ending right And when you of course all of us who for professional reasons we have to at least uh get a glimpse of what mainstream media is saying they live in what kind of re now obviously these people don't live in reality but what kind of nether world.
professional reasons we have to at least uh get a glimpse of what mainstream media is saying they live in what kind of re now obviously these people don't live in reality but what kind of nether world they live and ping the notion that I know it's the president of the United States is Like God he can decide one day to do the or zeals He he can decide one day to throw a lightning bolt and the other day okay let's have a banquet He decides the future of the world No he doesn't decide anything There are people deciding for him He's basically a lowly messenger a cheap messenger a casino hustler you know a mobster a subm mobster So it's uh it was good to have a few um uh inside um info and commentary from from people in St Petersburg Well well positioned people in the Russian government.
you know a mobster a subm mobster So it's uh it was good to have a few um uh inside um info and commentary from from people in St Petersburg Well well positioned people in the Russian government especially they have no they have no illusions of course and once again they all come back to the same point We have a war here in our borders First we need to solve this and now they're fully concentrated uh what's going to happen in the next few months Uh the conditions are going to be much much tougher if uh not uh Kiev but Kiev's sponsors don't accept what's on the table put on the table by the Russians and meanwhile they keep organizing forums like this so the whole of the global south can get together and strike business deals So there there's always the other side of the coin IMA right The.
and meanwhile they keep organizing forums like this so the whole of the global south can get together and strike business deals So there there's always the other side of the coin IMA right The auspicious side of the the coin even in the middle of such darkness What was so important about the the point that Putin raised in St Petersburg said he said that Russia and Iran are fighting the same forces The same this was brilliant Wow Everybody knows what he means He doesn't need to get into detail and Putin doesn't he never needs to spell out okay he needs to spell out especially for Kab But when he's talking to a broad audience which in this case was a global audience everybody was waiting okay what is he going to say about Iran This is possibly the key quote because you can inter interpret.
he's talking to a broad audience which in this case was a global audience everybody was waiting okay what is he going to say about Iran This is possibly the key quote because you can inter interpret this at several levels and at the same time he said something very crucial which explains a lot of his um let's say circumspection when he deals with Israel He says look we have almost 1. 5 million former USSR and Russian citizens double passports living in Israel speaking Russian So Israel in many aspects is also a Russian land He has to take this into consideration of course So it's it's a his compared to Trump his position is uh of course it's solid but the nuances are extremely complex but because he's he has a legal mind He is a strategist and he weighs everything before making a big big.
compared to Trump his position is uh of course it's solid but the nuances are extremely complex but because he's he has a legal mind He is a strategist and he weighs everything before making a big big big decision At least we have a rational mind calculating all the vectors right But at the same time he's not going to abandon his principles which is Iran is a very strong ally of the Russian Federation They have mutual interest They have business deals Russia is helping Iran in their civilian nuclear program and they are not backing down from any of that So this is clear and the Americans who know how to read for them this is also clear obviously from the Zionist axis point of view this doesn't change anything because they're fanatics and now they think that they have the holy grail in.
who know how to read for them this is also clear obviously from the Zionist axis point of view this doesn't change anything because they're fanatics and now they think that they have the holy grail in front of them regime change in Iran which once again Sai piece was about how we're going to achieve regime change in Iran this should have been the title in fact the headline What were the main points that he was mentioning Because so far I don't see anything in that sense is happening in Iran The main goal of these attacks assassination decapitation as they call it was to somehow bring so-called regime change in Iran That doesn't that didn't work so far Shano ima all of us who remember shock in 2003 uh in in Iraq it worked but Iraq was already dissolved as a nation Um I I went to in 2002 I.