

Eugene Debs, an American, won 6% of the 1912 presidential vote in 1912. Milwaukee, Flint, Berkeley, Schenectady, Minneapolis, Reading, Bridgeport, and other cities had socialist mayors. The new deal is the largest social-democratic program ever.
Socialism is American, but the first thing every detractor wants to do is move the discussion to Europe a hundred years ago.

If you knew anything about what happened in Russia you would know that the Revolution was Betrayed and Stalin's system was STATE CAPITALISM. Leon Trotsky's Revolution Betrayed
QuoteI don't blame you, wouldn't we all like to be Brezos?
Fuck no. Why the fuck would I want to be a billionaire parasite who treats workers like disposable trash? That's a joke. Not having to pay tax so he could provide free shipping was an abomination. But the big bucks always come from an asymmetrical power arrangement and exploitation, so there is nothing new under the sun about that.
Back to socialism, you assume that the word has no stable meaning. It actually does and getting hung up on words is only useful when you are making a bad argument. When I use the word socialism, I'm not expecting anyone to guess my private definition. I use the standard, academically recognized one, which is:
QuoteCollective investment in public goods, financed by progressive taxation, within a democratic political system.
Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and Finland somewhat qualify. The USSR implemented a dictatorship and does not qualify at all. The Nazi Party, formally known as the National Socialist German Workers' Party, did not embrace socialism in any meaningful way. "National Socialist" was a marketing lie. The Nazi system was ultra-capitalist, ultra-nationalist, and violently anti-worker. The label meant nothing.
ere are words as labels, and then there is reality which has nothing to do with words.
QuoteWorkers democratically owning or controlling the means of production.Also describes socialism, and this definition is not not mutually exclusive from the first.