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    Icing the cake about Luddites

    Started by K-Dog Oct 02, 2023, 07:56 PM

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    Oct 02, 2023, 07:56 PM
    Luddites hating technology????

    Quotetechnology (n.)

    1610s, "a discourse or treatise on an art or the arts," from Latinized form of Greek tekhnologia "systematic treatment of an art, craft, or technique," originally referring to grammar, from tekhno-, combining form of tekhnē "art, skill, craft in work; method, system, an art, a system or method of making or doing," from PIE *teks-na- "craft" (of weaving or fabricating), from suffixed form of root *teks- "to weave," also "to fabricate." For ending, see -logy.

    The meaning "study of mechanical and industrial arts" (Century Dictionary, 1895, gives as examples "spinning, metal-working, or brewing") is recorded by 1859. High technology is attested by 1964; short form high-tech by 1972.
    also from 1610s

    The problem is not as difficult as the question,  What came first. the chicken or the egg?  People preceded machines.

    The Luddite era was 1811-1813.  At that time technology had nothing to do with mechanics.  Weaving frames were brand new.
    Study of mechanical and industrial arts" (Century Dictionary, 1895, gives as examples of technology "spinning, metal-working, or brewing").

    Technology at the time of the Luddites meant things humans did.  If you don't think that makes sense consider before the Luddites machines did not compete with people because there were none.  'Technology' could not possibly have the modern connotation that it does now.

    Quote*teks- Proto-Indo-European root meaning "to weave," also "to fabricate," especially with an ax, also "to make wicker or wattle fabric for (mud-covered) house walls."

    Fifty years later (by 1859) technology would be associated with mechanical technique, but the correct use of 'technology' means to this day the the art or craft of doing something.  Who does technique, man or machine, is irrelevant to the main meaning.

    How often does the word appear in print?



    Before 1940 hardly at all.  In 1811 spoken or written by a Luddite, probably not once.

    To say that Luddites hated technology means that Luddites hated themselves.  In 1811 Technology meant 'the craft of weaving' among other things.  To say Luddites hated technology makes no sense at all unless the Luddites were all into BDSM.    I doubt any Luddites had time for such nonsense.

    The Luddite situation was about jobs and workers being mistreated.  The class struggle, and the divine right of capitalists replacing the divine right of kings as the dominate class.  Violence defined how the contradiction worked out.

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