Quote from: TDoS on Apr 27, 2026, 05:31 PMYeah, I didn't think you'd be able to handle the main gist of my post, the entire "communism is good!" angle is just too easy to offset by pointing out...WHAT communism has done, rather than what hopes and dreams would have of it.
Dismissing "communism" as a failed utopian dream misses the essential point.
Marxism isn't an abstract wish list. It is a materialist analysis of how society actually works. Your terrible outcomes weren't inherent to socialism itself, but were the consequences of specific historical circumstances and political errors. Bureaucracy degenerated workers' power, and sabotaged the international workers revolution. But that was then, and this is now.
The core socialist aims collective control over production to end class exploitation remain fundamentally sound, and are analytically necessary.
The question isn't whether socialist goals are desirable (they are), but how can these goals be consciously achieved by the working class. Using democratic means. Avoiding the pitfalls and errors that lead to authoritarianism.