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Started by K-Dog, Aug 25, 2023, 12:18 PM

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K-Dog


Scott Ritter says it like it is.  The truth here overwhelms.

  In the middle of the night Ukraine invades Crimea and puts a flag on a house.  Then leaves.

Politicians feed off the desires of the American people.  The American
people are woefully ignorant about the reality of Russia. 

Russophobia has seized control of American minds and there are no vaccines or antidotes available for
this disease.  It will continue to infect the electoral process, guaranteeing that people running for
office will articulate policies uh that paint Putin in a bad light to paint Russia in a bad
light.  Thus avoiding the opportunity for peace.

Politicians appease people to get sufficient votes to win.  Putin will not be man of the year here anytime soon.  The empire wants to keep its secrets.  Russiaphobia fits the need. 

K-Dog

#1

Some have said the moon landings were fake.  No, we did not have the tech to pull that off at the time.

What now? These Neo-nazis don't look staged to me.

* As it is now age restricted it seems the spooks agree.

K-Dog

#2

In the late seventies I never could understand how a disgusting jew hating Nazi WWII vet could wind up living out his last days tanked on bird piss beer in Seattle's Blue Moon Tavern on the edge of the U district.

Gunter was Ukrainian.  That meant nothing to me then.  Listening to Scott Ritter here now, it all makes sense.

  Rainbows!

The CIA kept and supported an army of NAZIs for years as a weapon in the cold war to bring down Russia.  Gunter scored a premium job in a Puget Sound Shipyard for his 'service'. 

The stuff I figured Gunter was making up when he was tanked, (that was all the time) he wasn't.  Gunter became an American after a career killing jews.

* Back in the day.  Joe gets insulting.

 



Roots run deep.

Fantasy Girl

#3
I'm in Berlin right now.  I just met a friend who knows people in Ukraine.  She teaches school and when you ask her a question she talks this way, like she is writing an article.

Let's start with Ukraine. From 2014 to 2022, the civil war in the Donbas took nearly 15,000 lives. How many have been killed in action since the US/Nato-Russian proxy war began in February 2022 is unknown, but is certainly in the several hundreds of thousands. Casualty numbers have been concealed by unprecedentedly intense information warfare. The only information in the West about the dead and wounded has been propaganda from Kyiv claiming vast numbers of Russian dead while revealing little about Ukrainian casualties. Yet even by last summer, it was known that 10% of Ukrainians were involved with the armed forces, while 78% had relatives or friends who had been killed or wounded. It is estimated that between 20,000 and 50,000 Ukrainians are now amputees. (For context, 41,000 Britons had to have amputations in the First World War, when the procedure was often the only one available to prevent death. Fewer than 2,000 US veterans of the Afghanistan and Iraq invasions had amputations.)

This is horrible.  We have to do something.  Should we stop sending stuff to Zelenskyy?

K-Dog

#4

I listened to the Putin/Tucker C. interview while I was trying to download it.  I ran into a technical issue involving my video card.  I would have had to capture the stream in real time because the video has been set up to not be downloaded from Twitter or Tuckers site.  Then I would have had to upload it to YT to get it encoded to a reasonable size. A total headache.

Putin explained that the area under dispute is Russian.  He is correct, but Americans do not know history or the demographics of the region defined as Ukraine is an area populated by a diversity of peoples.  The most dangerous thing for America is that Putin presented himself as the refined gentleman he is.  That truth is not supposed to be known in America.

As to Tucker,  Let the obstacle be the way.  And Tucker has had the men in suits on his ass.  I know that does not feel good.



Noah and Carlos have their shit together.  Halfway through they both went off on the purity fetish.  Carlos is big on the idea, and he got Noah's gears grinding.  An hour in.  A great rant.

After the rant the immigration crisis is explained.

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Quote from: K-Dog on Feb 10, 2024, 05:03 PMPutin explained that the area under dispute is Russian.  He is correct, but Americans do not know history or the demographics of the region defined as Ukraine is an area populated by a diversity of peoples.  The most dangerous thing for America is that Putin presented himself as the refined gentleman he is.  That truth is not supposed to be known in America.

This type of mismatch between nation state borders and the ethnic makeup of the population is very common all over Europe, Africa, the Middle East, the Indian subcontinent and SE Asia.  It's the result of millenia of warfare and treaties redrawing border and creating new states out of fracturing empires.  Quite a bit of it happened throughout the colonial era and as a result of the 2 world wars.  People don't know about this because they don't know history, just like they don't know math or science. They also don't read.  None of this is secret information, all you need to do is go to the library and read.

The nation-state is a form of political organiztion that grew out of the development of agriculture.  As primates, our closest relatives are Bonobos, 98% genetically identical to homo sap.  Like Bonobos, evolutionary biology makes us tribal social animals.  As long as the nation state is the dominant political organization, we'll always have mismatches like Donbass being integrated with Ukraine.  They are simply tribal Russians who lived on the wrong side of a border drawn long after the tribe occupied that piece of property.  In a way, it's a consequence of the property ownership concept.  I'll let you guys stew on that.  ;)

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K-Dog

#6
I won't even bother straining my brain to glean insight to this madness through western news sources.  The intelligence blob will spin anything their way.  There is a war on.  Actually two.  America wants it's 51st state to control the Middle East, and the rich want to sell your oil.  The American people are:

To Stupid to Nationalize Oil.
  Americans prefer genocides to finding out what is going on.

People were too stupid to stand up against unjust power before video and passive living came along.  Now, forget about it. 

If you don't know what is going on, you do not even know power is unjust.  When most people had to actually do physical labor to survive and the world could not afford as many useless eaters.  Original thoughts were not an advantage in getting by.  But truth was harder to hide.  Most people became drones, a few rebelled.  Somewhere along that spectrum everybody fell, but 'follow the leader' causes the least mental anguish in that scenario.   For most people critical thinking did not pay bills.

Things have changed with our new technical fourth turning.  With so many useless eaters now few has become none.  People confuse action and reality now  in a way that would make dead generations laugh. 

Modern Americans think that thinking good thoughts make you a good person.  Action not required.  Useless eaters do not have suffering of others in their bailiwick. unless it is a personal problem.  Anything not in their personal life is out of sight and out of mind. 

Critical thinking can't occur in a passive mind.  In passive living, critical thinking is avoided altogether.  And Americans have become as passive as plants.  Forget about a sheep comparison.  Consumption is everything.  Americans are in a mad rush to get it before it is gone.

What does this have to do with the Moscow Crocus Concert Hall Massacre?

It means that truth in American Media is dead.  America has freedom of speech as it always claims.  Freedom to hear in the FSOA not so much.  The truth on this massacre is going to be hard to find.  Freedom of speech in America is the freedom to piss in the wind and not be heard.  Say what you wish.

It is getting to be,  'Everybody Lies'


And with suspects taken alive:



The American people are sure as hell not going to know who the perpetrators were going to hook up with in Ukraine had they got there.  But to be fair, they really don't care.  America prefers serving in hell than creating a heaven on earth.

The scream in Russia is for the death penalty.  People there forget that Russia has something more punishing.



Only prisoners with life sentences who are beyond redemption go there.  To become the ultimate is useless eatery.

The murdering disciple of god in the picture has been beaten.  Not enough.  I hope Putin's specialists at finding truth are hard at work on his soulless ass right now.  Finding out everything they can.

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Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 25, 2024, 12:59 PMThings have changed with our new technical fourth turning.  With so many useless eaters now few has become none.  People confuse action and reality now  in a way that would make dead generations laugh.


Back in the days before TV and Radio, at the end of the day men would sit around at a bar or the barbershop and discuss the newz of the day, that they got from local newzpapers and word of mouth from travellers.  There was constant discourse.  Women did the same thing in sewing circles, bridge clubs and quilting bees.

At first the internet seemed as though it would exponentially increase this discourse, but as we know now it has done just the opposite.  real conversation and communication has been surpressed and what you're left with is a cacophony of so much disinformation that discussion has become close to useless.

I have no idea what was behind the Moscow attack.  Vlad the Impaler isn't the type to let something like that slide though, so I wonder what the retaliation will be?

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K-Dog

#8
QuoteBack in the days before TV and Radio, at the end of the day men would sit around at a bar or the barbershop and discuss the newz of the day, that they got from local newzpapers and word of mouth from travellers.  There was constant discourse.  Women did the same thing in sewing circles, bridge clubs and quilting bees.

A crucial part of it was talking to others.  Strangers even.  Now phones have everyone divided.  An eye in the sky watching all this would observe everyone rubbing their crotch.  And nobody having sex.

From a social intercourse point of view.  I make an analogy.

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Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 25, 2024, 10:58 PMA crucial part of it was talking to others.  Strangers even.  Now phones have everyone divided.  An eye in the sky watching all this would observe everyone rubbing their crotch.  And nobody having sex.

From a social intercourse point of view.  I make an analogy.

Intercourse has gone off course with no recourse, of course.  Trying to figure out the truth now is like trying to decide whether to leave the toilet seat up or down in the Women's locker room at the NCAA Swimming Championships.  Like your gender, the truth is whatever you want it to be.  Vote No on Proposition Yes and get a new Iphone15 when you sign up for gender reassignment surgery.  2+2 at 2% Interest means you owe $222 in debt 2moro 2 the 2 Big 2 Fail Banks.  Vote often in every election for the same candidates telling the same lies you believed the last election.  Drill baby, drill and get a free pizza with every tank of gas you buy.  Remember, for everything on Amazon you don't need and can't afford, there's Visa.

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K-Dog

#10
Chat GPT you dim-witted wonder.  I have a question for you.
What war crimes has Putin been accused of.


Putin and the Russian government have faced various accusations of war crimes, particularly in relation to their actions in the conflict in Ukraine and Syria. Some of the accusations include:

1.    Ukraine: Accusations include indiscriminate shelling of civilian areas, targeting of civilian infrastructure such as hospitals and schools, and the use of banned weapons like cluster munitions.

2.    Syria: Russia has been accused of targeting civilian areas and infrastructure in support of the Assad regime, including hospitals and aid convoys. There are also allegations of the use of chemical weapons.

3.    Chechnya: During the Second Chechen War, there were allegations of human rights abuses and war crimes committed by Russian forces, including extrajudicial killings and torture.

It's important to note that accusations of war crimes are serious and should be thoroughly investigated by independent bodies to determine their veracity.

Chat GPT, you ignorant piece of shit.
I am not interested in speculation, give me the facts only.


There have been no substantiated findings by independent international bodies or courts regarding war crimes committed by Putin.

I get sick of well-know intelligent people who go off on Putin.  We have well-known PHD types who have the ground they walk on worshiped.  Scientists who are supposed to deal in facts to give understanding to our poor ignorant wage slave masses.  Understandings we are not capable of reaching on our own.  But take these same people away from their expertise areas, and ask them about Putin.  Turns out the smarty-pants are as dumfuck as everyone else away from their specialty.  They parrot the party line.

It sucked to find out that I am smarter than the average 'smart' person.  It was an honest true letdown to find out I am.  You think my ego would have been puffed-up by my discovery.  I am not making this up.  It was not.  It sucks that humanity does not have the brainpower to save itself.  It truly does.




And a cookie won't help.

By the time oil shipments get spotty in ten years America will be full on fascist.  We will remember these days of fascism lite, and we will wish we had them back.

K-Dog

#11
The Duran guy asserts that the Russians offensive is more Ukrainian failure than Russian offensive.

It is not a matter of telling the truth.  What do the numbers say:




A Ukrainian failure is what the numbers say.







All those deaths for this.

The numbers paint a clear picture.  And Russia knows who is actually firing the missiles into Belgorod.  The cover story of the accidental Russian bomb does not explain the hundred plus missile strikes.

K-Dog

#12
The Donetsk monument documents killings all the way back to 2014.  The case that Putin waited too long can be made.

There is some Irony here.  German SS guards had a hard time shooting children.  Some Nazi SS men could do it, but others had a hard time convincing themselves they were killing future vermin when they looked into the eyes of children who looked just like their own back home. 

Convincing themselves they were doing the 'right thing' was necessary for most SS men to become cold-blooded murderers.  But convincing yourself kids deserve to die is hard to do.  Human self-deception, despite having great power has limits when it comes to kids. 

The stress working on an execution squad eventually made the use of gas necessary.  The de-personalization gas provided was necessary for the increased production of later years.

In 1941 a SS group leader was told to get his men ready to shoot a group of Jewish children. The group leader explained the morale problem and recommended a group of Ukrainian Guards shoot the kids instead.  There were no objections to his suggestion.

I wonder if the Jew Killer I met in Seattle in the late 70's from Ukraine was one of them.  If so he took too long to drink himself to death.  Wen he got drunk enough at the Blue Moon Tavern it was all he could talk about.

The irony is German SS men having more qualms about killing children then the leadership of the American Democratic Party.  Saying more may be going to far?  The same then.  That does not go too far.


K-Dog

#13

This audio is fresh at time of post.

A week or so Scott Ritter was raided by the FBI.  The plan is to frame Scott as a foreign agent.  The raid obviously vets Scott Rittter's sources.  Thank you FBI for pointing out where the truth is.  We all know you would not pursue bullshit that could not be backed up.  If that were true you would just let Scott make a fool of himself.  No, the FBI raid is a clear attempt to control the narrative and prevent any dissent from toeing the genocidal line.

The audio comes from Scott's You-Tube.  His channel uses stock video which none of us need.

I publish the audio because it looks like the Ukraine war clicks the doom clock to midnight a few notches. 

NATO gives the Ukraine armed forces the best shit and they wrecked havoc.  Huge human cost.  Now Russia will defeat Ukraine.  Russia is directly attacked and Ukraine just lost any chance that there will be anything but a ghost of Ukraine at the end of this.  It is not lost on the Russians that the best American terminator shit was used.

Fingers are on the button of NUKES.  I do not think Americans would like a border city like Bellingham taken in a war, so put yourself in Russian shoes.  Things have changed.  Ukraine attacking Russia directly is not tit-for-tat.  The limited military operation is now considerably less limited.  Putin just became ten times more popular. 

In other news radical Zionists doing their exterminate the Palestinian thing have crossed lines IRAN can't ignore.  Will America put Trump on the throne in a nuclear winter?  Inquiring minds want to know.

K-Dog

#14


"Russia will not be victorious in the Ukraine war," said U.S. President Joe Biden with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg by his side during the opening of the NATO summit in Washington, D.C., on July 9.

The speeches took place in the Mellon Auditorium, where the North Atlantic Treaty was signed in 1949, 75 years ago.

Stoltenberg addressed the NATO allied heads of state at the summit, calling out the significance of the alliance.

NATO is "not only the most successful and strongest but also the longest-lasting alliance in history," he said. He acknowledged that NATO's enduring success has never been a given, but is rather "the result of deliberate choices and difficult decisions," from NATO's inception to arms control negotiations to NATO's support to Ukraine today.

"NATO's support for Ukraine entails both costs and risks," Stoltenberg said. The secretary general underlined that there are "no risk-free options in war."

Stoltenberg said that a Russian victory in the war against Ukraine would strengthen Iran, North Korea, and China and that these countries would like to see NATO fail.

Biden heaps praise on Stoltenberg

"A bipartisan majority of Americans understand that NATO makes us all safer," Biden continued in his speech afterward, which ended with him asking Stoltenberg to take the stage again. Biden then presented Stoltenberg with the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the United States' highest civilian honor.

"You did not hesitate when Russia's war began in Ukraine. NATO is stronger, smarter, and more energetic than when you started," Biden told Stoltenberg.

"And a billion people in Europe and North America, yes, in the whole world, are going to reap the benefits of your efforts for years to come, in the form of security, opportunity, and more freedom," said the president.

Biden praised Stoltenberg for his calm temperament and described the outgoing head of NATO as "a man of integrity and intellectual power" and an "accomplished diplomat."

Honored and humbled

"I am honored and humbled to have received the Presidential Medal of Freedom. I see this as recognition not only for myself but for the millions of men and women who serve our great alliance, in and out of uniform. We stand stronger and safer together in NATO," Stoltenberg wrote on X.

Stoltenberg has led NATO since 2014. After 10 years as secretary general, former Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte will take over the leadership post in October this year.

QuoteThe biggest risk and biggest cost for NATO today, is the risk of Russian victory in Ukraine. We cannot allow this", SG Stoltenberg said at the NATO anniversary in Washington: "The outcome of this war will determine global security for decades to come.


The secretary general underlined that there are "no risk-free options in war."

Unsaid was the secretary general's firm belief that killing people is Ok if it gets you more stuff.