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Started by RE, Jan 30, 2025, 12:59 AM

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Goldernen Oxernen

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Quote from: TDoS on Today at 10:07 AMThis confused me. I am paid a salary. What part of my salary has to do with bribery?

Being paid to post and mislead re peak oil.  You described it as a side gig, easy extra income rather than full time though. If you get paid full salary, 8 hr  for an hour or so activity, it's paid for by balooning national debt. That shows why minimal govt I advocate is necessary. 

After a recent exercise as a juror on a murder trial for a week, and having seen nothing that looked anything like corruption, if it is everywhere, how did I miss it? Witnesses testified, judges read some pretty expected rules, 12 common folk sat down at a table and said "SHIT!! did that guy kill that dude or what!" and that was about it.

If the sherriff and/or deputy or county official you brandished a rifle at had decided to say you opened fired at him or them, that would be open shut, credible witness/es to likely change the course of your life. Lucky for you the police, prosecution and court were not under pressure to increase the quota of arrests and convictions for not allowing access meter readers or similar. If that were the focus of a politicised issue with a hillbilly studies dept in every university stirring up a crisis fear about it, with an ever increasing budget making it a growth industry in the billion$, chances are better than even you would become a statistic to prove more needs to be done and spent.

 I never said every case is a sham trial and travesty. Where there is no interest in perverting the course of justice, it is frequently allowed.



Okay, now who are you referring to? Doomers, public servants, researchers, I mean this category looks like it might include just about everyone using money, and thereby a part of the current system.

Even Ted Kazinsky had to buy stamps, but the statist state of mind is over regulation, interference and their programmed belief system being as water to the fish. They love big brother and mind his business.

As far as oblivious...sometimes it is a good thing. Can you imagine the millions of manhours wasted worrying about peak oil circa 2005 or so? Two decades of people stocking up on toilet paper and guns, buying a hunting cabin, wanting to go "back to the land" and missing 2 decades of economic expansion in the US...the oblivous got that one right. So did those oblivious to t
he Mayan Calendar stunt. Or Yellowstone exploding...PLANET X!!

I never heard peak oil mentioned before 2008, so I don't know of anyone panicking in 2005 even if they decided to aspire to be off grid and self sufficient some time since then. The cost of living crisis would be far less of a burden not paying for food and energy. The time taken in trial and error, livestock herd size and fruit and nut trees growing to a worthwhile size.

Its amusing how many people now believe there are flat earthers and thats a phenomena that developed in the past decade. I see it often. You never ever see anyone claiming the earth is flat, but will see people referring to flat earthers and not just likening them to flat earthers, but believe that unspecified people do believe the earth is flat. That follows on from a valid but differing opinion to their own. Insisting there are only two genders is pre Copernicus in the 21st Century. The insistence oil is essentially infinite is the belief that could be considered flat earther to me. The mayan calendar having the world end on a year I forget and planet Nibiru were just open questions nobody could do anything about anyway. I don't recall seismic activity ever reported for a Yellowstone evacuation or risk. Did anyone you know of leave the US for fear of it? Probably not, but don't let that stop lumping anyone attributing the cost of living crisis to limits to growth with paranoidelusion.



 Although being educated also working in dodging all that nonsense as well.

Then it beats me why a highly acclaimed and accoladed Nobelaureate  published PhD professor  would go grow longhorn 🐄🐮 cows, chickens 🐔🍗 and xmas trees 🎄 on a 'remote' family ranch 👍


TDoS

Quote from: Goldernen Oxernen on Today at 02:55 PM
Quote from: TDoS on Today at 10:07 AMThis confused me. I am paid a salary. What part of my salary has to do with bribery?

Being paid to post and mislead re peak oil.  You described it as a side gig, easy extra income rather than full time though. If you get paid full salary, 8 hr  for an hour or so activity, it's paid for by balooning national debt. That shows why minimal govt I advocate is necessary. 


You are mistaken. I've never been paid to mislead anyone about anything, such is not the point of the world of science I am familiar with. And since when was telling people that peak oil occurred 7 years ago now misleading?

Do you suggest that the data proving this is MY fault somehow? Or do you object to the use of data to know this as a current irrefutable fact? Data is data...I recommend the EIA International Data Statistics, Crude Oil and Lease Conddensate...stay away from "other liquids" BS.

Quote from: TDoSAfter a recent exercise as a juror on a murder trial for a week, and having seen nothing that looked anything like corruption, if it is everywhere, how did I miss it? Witnesses testified, judges read some pretty expected rules, 12 common folk sat down at a table and said "SHIT!! did that guy kill that dude or what!" and that was about it.

Quote from: Goldernen OxernenIf the sherriff and/or deputy or county official you brandished a rifle at had decided to say you opened fired at him or them, that would be open shut, credible witness/es to likely change the course of your life. Lucky for you the police, prosecution and court were not under pressure to increase the quota of arrests and convictions for not allowing access meter readers or similar.
I don't recall ever brandishing a weapon at a deputy or county official in my life, did you actually DO this and suffer the consequences of it? Or was this just a hypothetical?

Quote from: Goldernen OxernenI never said every case is a sham trial and travesty. Where there is no interest in perverting the course of justice, it is frequently allowed.

Put another way, there may be so few favors and influence peddling that it certainly isn't endemic at all?

Quote from: Goldernen OxernenIts amusing how many people now believe there are flat earthers and thats a phenomena that developed in the past decade. I see it often. You never ever see anyone claiming the earth is flat, but will see people referring to flat earthers and not just likening them to flat earthers, but believe that unspecified people do believe the earth is flat. That follows on from a valid but differing opinion to their own. Insisting there are only two genders is pre Copernicus in the 21st Century. The insistence oil is essentially infinite is the belief that could be considered flat earther to me. The mayan calendar having the world end on a year I forget and planet Nibiru were just open questions nobody could do anything about anyway. I don't recall seismic activity ever reported for a Yellowstone evacuation or risk. Did anyone you know of leave the US for fear of it? Probably not, but don't let that stop lumping anyone attributing the cost of living crisis to limits to growth with paranoidelusion.

Boy did YOU miss all the really COOL doomer stuff of the early 21st century. Where were you, this stuff was everywhere, the Diner had some of those folks who just LOVED Planet X and some of the more entertaining ones. Can you imagine, back then China going down the tubes was considered a near given, as opposed to battling the US for global economic dominance. It was all over the Diner, did you miss it? Were you locked up somewhere or didn't have internet available?


Goldernen Oxernen

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Quote from: TDoS on Today at 03:50 PMYou are mistaken. I've never been paid to mislead anyone about anything, such is not the point of the world of science I am familiar with. And since when was telling people that peak oil occurred 7 years ago now misleading?

And that would be a reason for keeping the academic and alphabet agency work as one hand not knowing what the other is doing and regularly deleting posts . 1890 is more than 7 years ago.

Do you suggest that the data proving this is MY fault somehow? Or do you object to the use of data to know this as a current irrefutable fact? Data is data...I recommend the EIA International Data Statistics, Crude Oil and Lease Conddensate...stay away from "other liquids" BS.

I see no data cited above.

Quote from: TDoSAfter a recent exercise as a juror on a murder trial for a week, and having seen nothing that looked anything like corruption, if it is everywhere, how did I miss it? Witnesses testified, judges read some pretty expected rules, 12 common folk sat down at a table and said "SHIT!! did that guy kill that dude or what!" and that was about it.


I don't recall ever brandishing a weapon at a deputy or county official in my life, did you actually DO this and suffer the consequences of it? Or was this just a hypothetical?

I did say also "meter reader or similar". You recounted running someone off the property
with a firearm and landing in legal trouble for it. My point is at that time it didn't come under an agenda category of crime to make it fit, make it stick, or you would unlikely have gone free.





Put another way, there may be so few favors and influence peddling that it certainly isn't endemic at all?

If less than 1% of foreign students are Palestinians, the other 99% will not be put in detention and then shifted from holding facility to holding facility so that their lawyer cant file in the correct jurisdiction. However, 100% of the decision making people drawing salary involved are corrupted.

The frequency with which a regulatory board has committed major over reach and fraud and is then liable for compensation and damages to its members is probably small. The frequency an independent govt tribunal will overturn their decision if such damages and compensation would occur is about nil and they will cite maintaining public faith such as yours in their reasons.

Imagine stating during questioning that a 5 year old would need to be severely retarded to not know they would be hurt if they fell 4-5 ft onto a tiled floor. A tribunal panel of legal experts and a PhD psychologist then state you called someone "a retard" as one of many false misquotations in their reasons against your evidence. Mental Retardation being a clinical term the psychologist on the panel and signing off must be familiar with.  All mammals having an innate fear of falling, clearly saying "severe mental retardation refers to profound developmental delay. And so on up in the 🦘 kangaroo court system.

Family courts also deal with dozens of Emmet Tills and Rodney Kings daily, always their gender. You may be oblivious to all this even if there are millions of years of oil 🛢� at current consumption left.



Boy did YOU miss all the really COOL doomer stuff of the early 21st century. Where were you, this stuff was everywhere, the Diner had some of those folks who just LOVED Planet X and some of the more entertaining ones. Can you imagine, back then China going down the tubes was considered a near given, as opposed to battling the US for global economic dominance. It was all over the Diner, did you miss it? Were you locked up somewhere or didn't have internet available?

RE insisted China is toast, counter to my own opinion they were and are thriving. Even here, what happened to Evergreen collapse?

Given that most people were not deleting all their posts on the diner, do a search of the old archives and show anyone saying Planet X was going to knock 🌎 Earth out of orbit.

I also recall soneones expressed dislike for the farm life.






TDoS

Quote from: Goldernen Oxernen on Today at 05:12 PM
Quote from: TDoS on Today at 03:50 PMYou are mistaken. I've never been paid to mislead anyone about anything, such is not the point of the world of science I am familiar with. And since when was telling people that peak oil occurred 7 years ago now misleading?
And that would be a reason for keeping the academic and alphabet agency work as one hand not knowing what the other is doing and regularly deleting posts . 1890 is more than 7 years ago.

You seem to be wandering farther afield than I can follow. What is an alphabet soup agency, are you referring to the USGS and Hubbert's work for them? Deleting posts certainly has nothing to do with being misleading....it is more like  retrieving the pearls after they've been dropped and no one seems capable of undestanding that they are indeed pearls.

What does 1890 have to do with anything? The first credible "end of oil" was claimed in 1886, so if that claim by JP Lesley is what you're referring to, you are off by a few years.

Quote from: TDoSI don't recall ever brandishing a weapon at a deputy or county official in my life, did you actually DO this and suffer the consequences of it? Or was this just a hypothetical?

I did say also "meter reader or similar". You recounted running someone off the property
with a firearm and landing in legal trouble for it. My point is at that time it didn't come under an agenda category of crime to make it fit, make it stick, or you would unlikely have gone free.

Oh my goodness yes, I certainly ran someone not off my property, but out of the very trailer we lived in! At like 2AM after they broke in. Where you live, is it illegal to defend ones home from folks breaking in? The legal trouble wasn't mine in that case but theirs. And there was nothing to "go free" from. I wasn't arrested or even hassled by the police, I did have to testify in court though. 

If by "legal trouble" you are referring to another incident involving perfectly reasonable defense of ones person using a firearm, again, is self defense not permitted where you live? Because here in America, it is perfectly legal.

Quote from: Goldernen OxernenImagine stating during questioning that a 5 year old would need to be severely retarded to not know they would be hurt if they fell 4-5 ft onto a tiled floor. A tribunal panel of legal experts and a PhD psychologist then state you called someone "a retard" as one of many false misquotations in their reasons against your evidence. Mental Retardation being a clinical term the psychologist on the panel and signing off must be familiar with.  All mammals having an innate fear of falling, clearly saying "severe mental retardation refers to profound developmental delay. And so on up in the 🦘 kangaroo court system.

imagine if we all made up scenarios and pretended that the exception was the rule. Good thing exceptions are exceptions, and not the rule.
Quote from: Goldernen Oxernen
Quote from: TDoSBoy did YOU miss all the really COOL doomer stuff of the early 21st century. Where were you, this stuff was everywhere, the Diner had some of those folks who just LOVED Planet X and some of the more entertaining ones. Can you imagine, back then China going down the tubes was considered a near given, as opposed to battling the US for global economic dominance. It was all over the Diner, did you miss it? Were you locked up somewhere or didn't have internet available?

RE insisted China is toast, counter to my own opinion they were and are thriving. Even here, what happened to Evergreen collapse?

I don't know what an evergreen collapse is. Did a pine tree fall on your house?

Quote from: Goldernen OxernenGiven that most people were not deleting all their posts on the diner, do a search of the old archives and show anyone saying Planet X was going to knock 🌎 Earth out of orbit.
Given that the Diner no longer exists and therefore there ARE NO POSTS AT ALL, I'm not sure what you're getting at? i simply evacuated the burning building early.

Someone sure did like Planet X and Nirubu big time back in the day! You seriously don't think the Diner was the only place attracting folks who vanished into the ether when it turned out that peak oil came and went, Mayan calendar day came and went, and the world just...kept...spinning...do you?

If you remember the Diner, you remember the level of activity through time. It got big when folks could be talked into the world ending, and when it didn't, wasn't getting bigger. It wasn't because the place was burning down, but because the world burning down turned into economic boom times after the 2005 peak oil, and the 2006 one, and the 2008 one, and so on and so forth. It was boredom. Doom never came. If you compare that, to the modern version, even the big and well known ones like peakoil.com, and TOD, the enthusiasm seems to have vanished into Qanon and other interesting topics rather than the REAL problems the planet has.

Quote from: Goldernen OxernenI also recall soneones expressed dislike for the farm life.
Damn straight. You want it, you keepit. I didn't even know how bad it was until I went to college. You want to scratch your life out of the dirt in the holler, have at it and enjoy. But don't expect all of us who lived that life to join you once we've escaped. Selling poverty is harder than selling peak oil consequences nowadays, 7 years after it finally happened.