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Is It Too Late For The Climate?

Started by Knarf, Jul 30, 2025, 06:49 AM

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Knarf

This is an appeal for climate action to everyone. David Suzuki's recent statement is that it's now too late to save the climate, based on today's science This video explains where we are on the climate science - is Suzuki right? It is now 30 years since the 1992 UN climate change convention was was signed, and after 29 years of annual UN climate conferences nothing has changed. Suzuki, the renowned Canadian academic, science and nature broadcaster, is 89 years old. He is still working hard for nature, and says he is not giving up on the climate fight.


K-Dog

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A dystopian hellscape is in the works.  Only the reactionary wing of politics is organized.  The left is infected by bourgeois posers who marinate in ignorance, and reek of elitist performativity.

I 'll say there is not anything anybody can do without eliminating the current power structure.  But there appears to be no desire for change.

If the meek do not get off their ass there will be no earth for them to inherit.

Worldwide Gaza without a change of plan.

Looks to be.

Here is a great article spawned by thoughts of David Suzuki:

Units of Survival: We're on Our Own

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It's certainly too  late to avoid +1.5C average global temperature rise.  Also too late to avoid increasing frequency and severity of climate related disasters.  Not too late though to try and make the best of a bad situation and encourage migration away from coastal areas subject to tidal flooding and stop building in neighborhoods in wildfire territory.  Also not too late to enact water conservation legislation and limit the construction of energy consumptive AI data centers.

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monsta666

The longer BAU continues the worse the climate change problem will become. We are pretty much at +1.5C already so believing we will prevent that is pie in the sky thinking. I would also say +2C is unavoidable now. Anything over that there is scope to avoid. Big factor would be how the decline or collapse works out. Quicker it is the better it is for the climate.

In any event the real question is the magnitude of the problem rather than whether it occurs or not. I feel these days the climate scientists are afraid to disclose the true reality of the situation as they fear people will become more defensive and less receptive to their advice (which is understandable given the political/economic environment today).

TDoS

Quote from: monsta666 on Jul 31, 2025, 02:28 PMThe longer BAU continues the worse the climate change problem will become. We are pretty much at +1.5C already so believing we will prevent that is pie in the sky thinking.
And has been such since folks first posted that number. The amusing part is that folks thought that by someone credible (scientists allegedly meeting that criteria) pronouncing a goal, offering a target to avoid, and then telling people what it would mean, that people would react appropriately.

Oops.

Maybe they should have included A) some psychologists to teach them something about people or B) a historian.