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Started by RE, Jan 19, 2024, 06:15 AM

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RE

Well, according to the newz story I linked, they had only raised about $90K to finance this expedition.  That does not indicate a huge  following or turnout.  It would be very expensive for an independent trucker to do the wwhole trip, both in the cost of fuel + the time lost you could be pulling freight.  No trucking company would let a driver take the trip in a company vehicle.

However, they aren't only recruiting truckers, they want biker clubs like the Hells Angels and retired cops to take the trip as part of the convoy.  These folks have the time and the bikers go out together for club joyrides anyhow, so that's their base.

Far as the truckers go, they are driving the I-10, and once on the road they'll pick up truckers driving the route anyhow for at least part of the trip.  Anybody who has a cross country freight load booked during that week usually has a day or 2 of flexibility on the delivery date, so if they are real supporters of anti-immigration they might be able to do most of the route.

The big question is how many drivers on the I-10 they can pull into the convoy along the route.  They'll all be chatting on the CB radios as they go, and will recruit along the way.  If they are smart, they'll run an advance team about 12 hours before the main convoy starts and hit all the truckstops along the I-10 passing out flyers to idle truckers in the parking lots.

I doubt it will draw in that many, but I could see upwards of 500 vehicles starting out and maybe a couple of thousand at the end.  There's also the significant chance a counter protest group will tag along, including agent provocateurs to make trouble along the way.  If violence breaks out, that would get them newz coverage, so that might even be planned secretly.

They should be getting on the road soon, so just have to search the newz to see if anything turns up.

RE

RE

I will officially declare the anti-immigration convoy as a total flop on Day 1.

If they were halfway decently organized, they would have had their own live stream fot the start, along with some shots from a drone of a big crowd in a parking lot and vehicles streaming out onto the road.  With even just 50 vehicles and a crowd of a few hundred you could shoot some decent video.

Nope.  The one Fox Newz  story I found has one shot with a tour bus in it.  I'll bet they didn't have more than about 20 vehicles at the start.

Another Faux Newz story claimed "700K Trucks" would participate in this convoy.  Any idea how long that convoy would be?  About 8000 miles!  lol.  That's 4X as long as the route.

The French Farmers are doing a lot better blockading all the highways leading into Paris.  They know how to organize a protest over there.

Here's the God's Army dimwits:


Here's the frog farmers:


RE

RE

Today's Faux Newz promotion of God's Army Convoy has changed its claim from 700K trucks to 700K people expected to attend.  ::)  Expected by whom?  The propaganda dept at Fox clearly has pulled this number out of their asses.  Not much more in the way of photos, what they appear to have in their "convoy" is one light tractor trailer for gear, one tour bus for staff, a couple of food trucks and maybe 4 or 5 pickup trucks with campers or RVs.  They set up a little market with vending tents with t-shirts and souvenirs in parking lots on the route.

Despite the obvious minimal turnout, Fox is treating it like a major event, giving it big coverage as a lead story every day.  It comes up first as top newz story on Google Newz right now.

If they even get 7000 people at their final rally in Eagle Rock I'll be amazed.



https://nypost.com/2024/01/30/news/take-our-border-back-convoy-were-just-ordinary-citizens/

Take Our Border Back convoy expected to have 700K people to protest border crisis: 'We're just ordinary citizens'

K-Dog

#3
QuoteWe're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.

Thinking you are an empire goes to your head.

"We've got Canadian truckers, moms and dads. We've got motorcycles. If people could bring horses they'd bring horses. I know the numbers we are looking at are 700,000. I think it'll possibly be bigger than that."


I think you need more than one truck to be a convoy?



Correct me if I am wrong.

K-Dog

#4

Truckers for Freedom.  Really?  A trucker is EMPLOYED.  A trucker is not free.  RE will correct me if I'm wrong but even independent truckers have to be dispatched by someone who finds a load for them to haul.  Truckers as a class are all bitches of 'THE MAN' it seems to me.  Without capitalism and corporate tyranny all Truckers would be is workers who drive trucks.  Hmmmm  maybe that is all they are?

Somehow 'truckers' and 'veterans' got confabulated.  Hells Angels, Hunter Thompson and Hollywood were the catalyst of this incorrect abstraction if you want to get into the social dynamics of how it came about.  But that is a story for another day.

Regardless, trucker and veteran are confabulated in some kind of thought salad that seems to be rotten.

RE

#5
QuoteI think you need more than one truck to be a convoy?

Any group of vehicles can make a convoy, but you do need more than 1.  They do have also a tour bus with the same graphics, so technically they are a convoy.  Plus a pickup truck with flags and a souvenir truck!





QuoteTruckers for Freedom.  Really?  A trucker is EMPLOYED.  A trucker is not free.

Trucking is as close to legal slavery as you get, particularly as a company driver.  You're not paid by the hour but by the mile so you gotta keep moving to make money.  Abuses of hours were very common in the old days.  Electronic logging and GPS tracking has made this more difficult, but the drivers are still totally at the mercy of the dispatchers, even independents if you want to get good loads.  They'll give you schedules which in theory are possible on paper, but in the real world can't be done.  The money now is better than it used to be, but the lifestyle generally sucks.

QuoteSomehow 'truckers' and 'veterans' got confabulated.

Ex-cops also identify with this crowd, the local enforcers of Property Ownership in a capitalist country.   What the military does overseas as the enforcement arm of capitalism, cops do on home soil.  In the words of Gen Smedley Butler:

QuoteIt may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.

I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.

I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912 (where have I heard that name before?). I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.

RE

RE

As expected, the pathetic convoy of God's Army arrived in TX not with 100s of 1000s of anti-immigration fanatics, but "hundreds".  Looking at the aerial photo/video from this CBS newz story, if they had 100 total there I'd be surprised.

Do the newz agencies ever admit this was a total joke and they put up a week's worth of lead stories that were totally fabricated newz events?  Of course not.

https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/hundreds-of-protestors-gather-near-the-texas-border/

Hundreds of protestors gather near the Texas border to voice their concerns on immigration

RE

K-Dog

#7
QuoteDo the newz agencies ever admit this was a total joke and they put up a week's worth of lead stories that were totally fabricated newz events?  Of course not.

No of course not.  To Fox it is mission accomplished and millions of Americans have no idea it was an put-on sponsored by big money and intended to only to manipulate them to be powerless and afraid so passivity remains the national posture.  Staged to make everyone feel like harassing desperate people who are not white and need a job is cool to do.  They were quick to throw their token black man up on the screen so people will ignore that truth.

I posit a rule.  NEVER believe the crowd size when all that is shown is the same group from different angles.

If I was a zillionaire I'd get some food trucks down there to feed people coming across.  Is this crowd of 'patriots' feeding anyone but themselves?  Are they helping migrants?  I do not think they are.  I don't think this crowd has even seen one, but if they have and offered no help, then that is how they will treat you should you ever meet anyone in that crowd.

Good it is small.






RE

The election is coming, so it's time to pretend you're doing something about stopping the invasion of immigrants!  The Panamaniac president has been enlisted to try and shut down the Darien Gap jungle bushwacking hike the migrants from South America have to traverse on their way up to the land of Good & Plenty.  This is the narrow 60 mile isthmus that connects NA & SA, which has never had a road built, specifically because they've never wanted it to be easy to move military equipment between the two continents.

How successful they will be in plugging this hole remains to be seen, but it won't stop the migration.  They'll just start using more boats.  May slow it for a while though, and it's politically expedient to do it.

https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/panamas-next-president-says-hell-try-to-shut-down-one-of-the-worlds-busiest-migration-routes-2/

Panama's next president to shut down Darien jungle migration route

RE

K-Dog

This says it all.

QuoteWhether Mulino is able to reduce migration through a sparsely populated region with little government presence remains to be seen, experts say.

Far cheaper for Panama to give them a meal and bus them to the north border.  What is this ass-kissing idiot president going to do? Build a road to bus them back south through the Darien Gap? Once people cross the Gap, getting them back across will cost a fortune if you don't build a road.  You would have to fly them out.

The money to implement the presidential plan would come from where?

RE

Quote from: K-Dog on May 13, 2024, 06:27 PMThis says it all.

QuoteWhether Mulino is able to reduce migration through a sparsely populated region with little government presence remains to be seen, experts say.

Far cheaper for Panama to give them a meal and bus them to the north border.  What is this ass-kissing idiot president going to do? Build a road to bus them back south through the Darien Gap? Once people cross the Gap, getting them back across will cost a fortune if you don't build a road.  You would have to fly them out.

The money to implement the presidential plan would come from where?

Very good point

RE

RE

Here comes the Concentration Camps:

The less inflammatory synonym for "camps" is enhanced ICE detention space, but that doesn't have the same ring.

The point of detention, by the way, isn't to hold people, it is to remove them, as Trump noted the other day.


Of course,  these people must be removed.  We need to eliminate the problem.  This is the Final Solution.



Don't worry, this is only for illegal aliens.  We don't know how many there are, who they are or where they are, but you can be certain nobody will be detained by mistake.  Just make sure you are carrying your Identity Papers at all times.


https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/06/yes-we-need-camps-for-illegal-immigrants/


Knarf


TDoS

Quote from: RE on Jun 27, 2024, 11:24 AMAt last, an article which puts the blame where it belongs!  :)

https://www.brasildefato.com.br/2024/06/27/us-imperialism-is-driving-millions-of-people-to-flee-their-homes-across-the-world

RE
Quite an interesting perspective. US bad...all bad things happening in world...as world controlled by US....therefore....US bad. And it is because US maintains large military..making it bad...and therefore....what happens in Sudan...is US's fault. Not all claim US involved n that one.

But if you start with the premise that US=bad, therefore all bad = US, well, tough logic to beat, regardless of whether or not Suden is proof of anything related to US=bad.

Besides our membership here apparently being comprised of childless geriatrics, do we all also subscribe to US=bad? And as we all are North American based (Canada being a northern colony of the US), does anyone believe we are a large enough sample size to represent said North America?  Or is it just not a surprise that doomers are looking for bad actors, and the US makes a great target for that theme in general?