[K-Dog]

So Kuntsler was fronting a troll farm with all his idiot nonsense on Y2K and peak oil? Would you have any reason why the FBI would front someone generally foolish and easily dismissed, rather than someone useful to clicks and popularity and whatnot, like whomever the Taylor Swift of the day might have been? Michael "Jesus Juice" Jackson?

You seriously ask why, as if 'The War On Terror' is logical?

Actually it is: The mission remains (you think it is over , take a peek, but you can look up the web address on your own) to identify people who could be potential terrorists, and put them on a list.  That is all there needs to be to it.  Cross referencing people is the way dissidents are controlled.  Basic Stazi methods used paper records.  Now A.I. is doing much of the work.  It is all about identifying the connections between people.

Come on, Kunstler has that many commenters, really?  If you think he does, grow a brain.  I don't have to think about it.  I touched the sky.

A pop figure site is not a good place to put a troll farm.  Dissidents in general do not follow pop figures.  There are exceptions:

  Yes      No

Agent provacateur? Or a peak oiler trying to make some coin on the side, selling prepping gear for those who fell for the theme it was trying to sell?

No, the delivery did not match your guess.  The personality expressed was similar to Jed Clampet from the Beverly Hillbillies.  The intent to break up the discussion was clear.  After the fact that is.  Some of the blue haired liberal ladies left speechless.  Like I told you, the boys needed air, and needed to swing free.  He made it very clear.  He was wearing one of his kilts and used hand signals.  He was not trying to sell anything, but he was pretending he was. 

Talking about your balls is not a good way to sell stuff.

Do you disagree?

[RE]

Thank you for validating the near impregnable quality of the Groundhog day idea. I thought it would be difficult to refute as well, based on the facts of peak oil history, it seemed a good analogy.

It's an analogy, yes, but that is not what you said.  You said it was the same.  An analogy is when 2 things have similarities, but they are not the same thing.  You wanted to use the same news story over again.  Not correct. If you learn the proper use of the English language, we won't have a problem.  Some writing lessons might be helpful for you to be more precise in the use of language when writing to avoid confusion.

RE

[TDoS]

So Kuntsler was fronting a troll farm with all his idiot nonsense on Y2K and peak oil? Would you have any reason why the FBI would front someone generally foolish and easily dismissed, rather than someone useful to clicks and popularity and whatnot, like whomever the Taylor Swift of the day might have been? Michael "Jesus Juice" Jackson?

You seriously ask why, as if 'The War On Terror' is logical?

No. I didn't seriously ask anything about the war on terror. Was Kuntsler a war cheerleader or something?

Talking about your balls is not a good way to sell stuff.
Do you disagree?

To be honest I have no idea. Porn stars might do it, in order to sell jock straps or something?

[TDoS]

Thank you for validating the near impregnable quality of the Groundhog day idea. I thought it would be difficult to refute as well, based on the facts of peak oil history, it seemed a good analogy.

It's an analogy, yes, but that is not what you said.  You said it was the same.  An analogy is when 2 things have similarities, but they are not the same thing.  You wanted to use the same news story over again.  Not correct. If you learn the proper use of the English language, we won't have a problem. 
RE

So you are saying that you will happily argue the semantics because you can't refute the analogy I used? Ummm...ok. You win.

[RE]

Thank you for validating the near impregnable quality of the Groundhog day idea. I thought it would be difficult to refute as well, based on the facts of peak oil history, it seemed a good analogy.

It's an analogy, yes, but that is not what you said.  You said it was the same.  An analogy is when 2 things have similarities, but they are not the same thing.  You wanted to use the same news story over again.  Not correct. If you learn the proper use of the English language, we won't have a problem. 
RE

So you are saying that you will happily argue the semantics because you can't refute the analogy I used? Ummm...ok. You win.

There's no reason to refute the analogy, because it's irrelevant.  It's ancient history. What is important is the current situation, not the situation as it existed 20 years ago.  So far, the Global Peak Energy Consumption (including Peak Oil) figure reached in 2018 has not been exceeded.  Until and unless that figure is surpassed, that marks the date for when Peak Oil was reached.    Most of the analysis I have read since indicates it will not be surpassed, so Peak Oil is history now, not a projected future date.

We can return to arguing about Peak Oil if/when this figure is surpassed.  As of data available today, we have the date for Peak Oil established already. 2018.



RE

[TDoS]

There's no reason to refute the analogy, because it's irrelevant.  It's ancient history. What is important is the current situation, not the situation as it existed 20 years ago.

I see. Well, while I am unaware of the number of times the Groundhog Day effect can continue, I am forced to admit that even in the movie of the same name, it did in fact one day stop being the Groundhog day.

Most of the analysis I have read since indicates it will not be surpassed, so Peak Oil is history now, not a projected future date.

Could be. Although it seems to me there was far more robust analysis written on the first 4 occurred or claimed peak oils this century. #5 and even moreso unpredicted #6 seemed to sneak in the door unnoticed, unpredicted and both quite unremarkable. 

We can return to arguing about Peak Oil if/when this figure is surpassed.

Of course. Just as I said, the Groundhog Day and Peak Oil, hand in hand, marching through time, discrediting legions of gurus all along the way. The King is Dead! Long Live the King! 

The good news for now is that we can bask safe in the knowledge that 6 years after it occurred, gasoline is running perhaps $2.40/gal in my neighborhood, and is available by the tanker truck load...should someone want to buy that amount.

As of data available today, we have the date for Peak Oil established already. 2018.

Absolutely. <yawn>

[RE]

Absolutely.

Your capitulation has been duly noted and filed. 

RE

[TDoS]

Absolutely.

Your capitulation has been duly noted and filed. 
RE

Good. Also note my capitulation on ALL peak oils this century. Hence the need to number my capitulations same as the peaks themselves.

Such is the connection between peak oil and the Groundhog Day.

Now that we've etablished the validity of the Groundhog Day effect within the many peak oils, do you have any estimate on the question asked previously? When do you think the Groundhog Day effect will finally end? Yes yes..I know.... 6 Groundhog Days might be the answwer....but then again.....that's what was said all the other times as well.

[RE]

Groundhog day ends when there are no people to experience days or we finally learn from our mistakes.  Groundhog day is every day, just like in the movie.  No two days were ever the same in the movie, each day Bill Murray changed something and learned from it, until by the end he finally learned enough so Andie McDowell would fall in love with him, and that broke the calendar date loop.  I have no idea how many iterations it will take for Homo Sap to learn or if we will ever learn.  Just have to see how it plays out.

RE

[K-Dog]

Groundhog day ends when there are no people to experience days or we finally learn from our mistakes.  Groundhog day is every day, just like in the movie.  No two days were ever the same in the movie, each day Bill Murray changed something and learned from it, until by the end he finally learned enough so Andie McDowell would fall in love with him, and that broke the calendar date loop.  I have no idea how many iterations it will take for Homo Sap to learn or if we will ever learn.  Just have to see how it plays out.

RE

We only ever had funding for one season of the show.  Our days have run out.  We're getting cancelled.

[RE]

We're #1!  We're #1  We're #1!



Smashing new records every month!  Amerika, the Land of Good & Plenty!

What a country!



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/25/usa-oil-gas-production-world-record-level-energy-security/

The triumphant USA is now producing more oil and gas than any nation ever has

[TDoS]

We're #1!  We're #1  We're #1!
Smashing new records every month!  Amerika, the Land of Good & Plenty!

PLEASE!! AND IMPOSSIBLE!!

As we all know, Hubbert was right, an unmatched geologic genius, and posters on this site have vouched this to be good and true. We have been informed by those with knowledge on this topic that the EIA are a bunch of oil industry cast offs and sympathizers, probably cooking the books while looking for additional funding to continue their errant propaganda.

Nothing to see here, no need to hype the propaganda of the optimists flooding the world, you are encouraging them! I say we just move along, resist the urge to trumpet their ignorance from the rooftops (or in small web forums of 3 or 4 people who know these truths!), refuse to let the simple addition of data and resulting sum get in the way of warning the world about peak oil and the cataclysms to follow!  And if they dare to mention that global peak happened 6 years ago, we dispute that to the end, using Hubbert's outstanding analysis showing it happened in the mid-90's!

[RE]

Since this sad attempt at sarcasm was fully expected and predictable, I'll permit it as your response to the OP in the interest of  fairness and allowing you to continue turning yourself into a silly caricature of an internet troll.  Further expansion on the theme will not be necessary, your opinion has been duly noted and filed.



RE

[K-Dog]

M King Hubbert was spot on and oil depleted exactly as he predicted.

It is a troll move to compare CONVENTIONAL Hubbert OIL that came out of the ground if you stuck a drinking straw in the right place to HARD ROCK OIL which is an entirely different resource.

Conventional oil depleted in the 70's exactly as Hubbert predicted.

The new fossil fuel resource currently funding the FSOA will follow the same pattern.  The math is no different.  And sooner, rather than later.  Considering the dunce caps in charge of foreign policy.

[TDoS]

M King Hubbert was spot on and oil depleted exactly as he predicted.

Copy that. In the spirit of BlackWhite, problem solved for the US oil production problem! Feel free to refer anyone to it in its proper form.

It is a troll move to compare CONVENTIONAL Hubbert OIL that came out of the ground if you stuck a drinking straw in the right place to HARD ROCK OIL which is an entirely different resource. Conventional oil depleted in the 70's exactly as Hubbert predicted.

DAMN straight. Fig 21 in Hubbert's seminal work appropriated notated....unfortunately Hubbert never says conventional in the entire paper, so a slight add in seemed best to not make stuff up he didn't say directly. If a troll can't figure out how to put the correct words in a genius geologist's mouth, we can certainly do it for them on the charts that matter!


Need guidance from the Blackwhite committee though....how do we solve the "spot on" problem with his world estimate in Figure 2? We're short about 50 mmbbl/d in 2024....what do you think about a slight mod like this to hand out, should anyone find the original and not understand that the scale was just off by a little?