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Started by K-Dog, May 18, 2023, 10:24 AM

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K-Dog

QuoteIntensifies global weather patterns, causing heavier storms, floods, and droughts.

Seems to me a worldwide famine could be in the works.

TDoS

Quote from: RE on Aug 25, 2026, 05:06 PMWe'll get there. Tic Toc.

RE

We've been "getting there" since you discovered the topic. Sometime in the last century it became of interest right? Been gretting there....a LONG time now...and.....well...next.....<week-month-year-decade-centennial> maybe?

I would venture that after decades now, numberous website involvements (which themselves "got there" WAY before much of anything else cool) that it must be irritating to still be waiting. So the substitution of just political type stuff would make sense because at least it is "happening" as it were. Plus slow motion CO2 changes and stuff.

TDoS

Quote from: K-Dog on Aug 25, 2026, 05:33 PM
QuoteIntensifies global weather patterns, causing heavier storms, floods, and droughts.

Seems to me a worldwide famine could be in the works.

You never know! Even since the Mayan Calendar thing fizzled out though I haven't been holding my breath.

K-Dog

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Quote from: TDoS on Aug 25, 2026, 06:08 PM
Quote from: K-Dog on Aug 25, 2026, 05:33 PM
QuoteIntensifies global weather patterns, causing heavier storms, floods, and droughts.

Seems to me a worldwide famine could be in the works.

You never know! Even since the Mayan Calendar thing fizzled out though I haven't been holding my breath.



Intensive maize agriculture, with extensive deforestation for fuel and plaster production, with unchecked population growth pushed the fragile tropical ecosystem past carrying capacity  Multi-decade ninth century droughts made crop yields plummet.  Leading to social problems.  Ecological and economic collapse triggered political fragmentation, widespread famine, and destructive warfare that emptied the major cities of millions of inhabitants. Vacant and untended, once-grand stone plazas and monumental buildings were overgrown by tropical vegetation, the jungle claimed it all.

Their calendar at the end of the day was not worth shit.

RE

Quote from: TDoS on Aug 25, 2026, 06:07 PMSo the substitution of just political type stuff would make sense because at least it is "happening" as it were.

The Political, Sociological & Economic aspects of Collapse are the most interesting part.  That's what has made the last 20 years so entertaining.

RE

TDoS

Quote from: K-Dog on Aug 25, 2026, 08:16 PMTheir calendar at the end of the day was not worth shit.
With the enthusiasts on one of RE's other websites the Mayan Calendar, Planet X, Yellowstone going boom, the coming of peak oil that didn't, all sorts of interesting things were all the rage. I found it all fascinating.


K-Dog

Quote from: TDoS on Aug 26, 2026, 06:41 PM
Quote from: K-Dog on Aug 25, 2026, 08:16 PMTheir calendar at the end of the day was not worth shit.
With the enthusiasts on one of RE's other websites the Mayan Calendar, Planet X, Yellowstone going boom, the coming of peak oil that didn't, all sorts of interesting things were all the rage. I found it all fascinating.

Lots of fascinating things happen at the end of empires.

TDoS

Quote from: K-Dog on Aug 26, 2026, 08:01 PM
Quote from: TDoS on Aug 26, 2026, 06:41 PM
Quote from: K-Dog on Aug 25, 2026, 08:16 PMTheir calendar at the end of the day was not worth shit.
With the enthusiasts on one of RE's other websites the Mayan Calendar, Planet X, Yellowstone going boom, the coming of peak oil that didn't, all sorts of interesting things were all the rage. I found it all fascinating.

Lots of fascinating things happen at the end of empires.

Planet X and Yellowstone going boom fascinating the nutter contingent of doom is a ....POLITCAL thing?

RE

It's an entertainment thing.

Nothing nutter about Yellowstone.  Geological events causing collapse are well established phenomenon.

Planet X did not receive much attention.

RE

TDoS

Quote from: RE on Aug 27, 2026, 04:50 PMIt's an entertainment thing.

Nothing nutter about Yellowstone.  Geological events causing collapse are well established phenomenon.
Indeed. Quite true as a matter of geologic fact, yes (but I'd lead with the Siberian Traps if you want real doom, Yellowstone is nothing compared to that). But you didn't lead with it on any of your blogs, or peakoil.com, or here. The "nutter" part tends to revolve around folks hearing it somewhere, deciding 10 seconds later it must be true, and then trumpeting it from one rooftop or another as fact. And for good measure kicking in some degree of 'IMMINENT!", because someone online told them so. The psychology of THAT process...and then reveling in having this "secret" that others just can't understand or see.....that is alien to me, and fascinating because of it.

Quote from: REPlanet X did not receive much attention.
RE

Maybe not on your blogs, but it was out there, and you had at least one enthusiast on one of your blogs. The Mayan calendar was certainly out there. While everyone around the office knew my interest, debunking and professional work related to peak oil, on the scheduling calendar for the group we had the Mayan Calendar marked on a big calendar, and someone drew like a mushroom cloud image on it and words "THE END" and some pithy comment about work being canceled the next day or some such.

Scientists besides me certainly had a sense of humour on what can be found on the internet.

Got to go, a presentation to finish and some traveling, presenting, educating pofessional organizations next week, nothing special, just the usual sciencey stuff.

RE


THEGUARDIAN.COM 2026-08-30

Nepal and Tibet’s floods are a warning for the future

As rescuers search for survivors after catastrophic floods, the disaster offers a stark warning about the climate risks facing the region, and the world


The ice is melting on Everest due to Humane Urine.  Human caused climate doom in a nutshell.

"6,000 Liters of Urine a Day... Melting Glaciers," The Fear Sparked by Mountaineers

RE

RE

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CBC.CA 2026-09-02

Climate change past the point of no return, UN says, as worst impacts are now unavoidable

The UN states Earth will soon exceed the 1.5°C climate threshold, with worst impacts unavoidable.


Well, at least they finally admit it.  Now the question is , how bad will it get and how fast?  How about estimates of how much Ag production per year will be lost per 0.1 Degree increase in temperature?  Which neighborhood will get the most catastrophic flooding soonest?  If you can move, where are the best locations to move to?

RE

K-Dog

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ILLUMINEM.COM 2026-01-15

The science of staple crops and climate vulnerability

Climate change reduces staple crop yields (wheat, rice, etc.) via heat, drought, pests, threatening food security and products like bread, beer, cereal; adaptations (drought-tolerant crops, regenerative farming) aim to mitigate risks.

How bad will it get how soon is a complicated question that the science community knows something about, but does not talk about.  Like they all went to Vegas or something.

Global gridded crop models underestimate yield losses from climatic extremes

There is admission of the problem only if you agree to discuss fairy tale solutions afterwards.

RE


POLITICO.EU 2026-09-10

August declared the hottest month ever recorded

The 1.5°C threshold has been reached as global temperatures soared 1.65°C above pre-industrial levels in August, matching July 2023’s record. This surge, driven by fossil fuel emissions and a strong El Niño, coincides with record sea and air temperatures and extreme heatwaves. Emissions rose to 54 billion tons of CO₂ equivalent in 2025, confirming that the world is now living in a 1.5°C climate reality.


Do I hear 2C?  2.5?  SOLD!

RE

RE


WORLDWEATHERATTRIBUTION.ORG 2026-09-17

Rapid Warming in the Himalaya Exacerbates Geohazard Cascades Beyond Adaptation Limits

Significant progress in adaptation is needed, particularly through strengthened high Himalaya earth observation, hazard monitoring, risk communication  and transboundary data and knowledge sharing. But events of this magnitude ultimately exceed the limits of adaptation. Addressing unfolding and imminent loss and damage, through recovery and reconstruction support in impacted communities, has now become an unavoidable part of climate response.


Pretty thorough explanation of the reasons for the Glacial Collapse, but except for Geologists interested in this sort of thing not too helpful.  Basically they tell us there are way too many factors and variables involved to be able to make good predictions of where or when it will happen next orr to give sufficient Early Warning for people to get out of the way, and the results are too caatastrphic to "adapt" to.  You can't build houses strong enough to withstand mega tons of rock and ice falling on top of them. lol.

What I did find interesting is the population in these neighborhoods is INCREASING!  Practically every country in the OECD is shrinking in population, while these guys continue to breed more Homo Saps!  I can't imagine the increase comes from people immigrating there.  Who's gonna move to an impoverished country where there's barely enough oxygen to support animal life?

Why is the population increasing?  Because the arrival of electricity and modern medicine led to longer lifespans, and even just the small income derived from the tourist trade has led to more food availability.  Relatively speaking it's still a small population, but instead of the 10K Sherpas living in the area in 1953 when Everest first got climbed, today there's probably 50K.  Still tiny, and even if they all get wiped out in the next collapse, it wouldn't even be a rounding error in world population.

Even given the opportunity, I doubt many of the Sherpas would want to leave, so how much rebuilding should there be and who pays for it?


RE