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I think there are a multitude of reasons why rates are so low but perhaps the biggest are the cost of living and by extension the cost of raising a child.

Sorry Monsta..I'm not allowed to reply to such a controversial point.

You can reply.  The content of your reply will determine whether it stays up or gets removed and whether it results in a reply and further discussion or cooler time.  Your general inability to control your impulse to insult others and brag about yourself tends to result in the negative outcomes.  You bring it on yourself.

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However, economics doesn't explain the statistics, and the exploding percentage of recent generations to  self identify as Lezzie-Gay-Bi-Tranny-Queers.  Back in Boomer years it was ~1% of the population.  Today it's >5%.  That's a 500% increase.  What do you attribute that to?  Also, based on media TV, its even bigger than that.  Every show has at least one or 2 main characters as some non-binary gender variant.

Being openly gay in the Middle East will get you the death sentence. Can you guess the number of people self identifying people as gay in that region? Almost 0%. What people say and what people do is two different things. When the stigma to identify as something other than heterosexual is less then more people will admit to alternative sexual orientations. I am guessing the true numbers is something in the region of 10% which is actually higher than the figure you quoted at 5%+.

Whatever the case, even if you run with my higher 10% figure this cannot explain the decline in birth rates which has gone down by over 50% since 1960 (in the US at least). Something else is at foot. My suggestion is those declines come from the increasing cost of childcare, less stable jobs and the lower social pressure to get married. These things factor higher than the rise in the LGBTQ community.

[K-Dog]

As a total horndog, I can't imagine how sexuality can get confused.

I admit total mystification.  I might be from another planet.

A smile on a dog.

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However, economics doesn't explain the statistics, and the exploding percentage of recent generations to  self identify as Lezzie-Gay-Bi-Tranny-Queers.  Back in Boomer years it was ~1% of the population.  Today it's >5%.  That's a 500% increase.  What do you attribute that to?  Also, based on media TV, its even bigger than that.  Every show has at least one or 2 main characters as some non-binary gender variant.

Being openly gay in the Middle East will get you the death sentence. Can you guess the number of people self identifying people as gay in that region? Almost 0%. What people say and what people do is two different things. When the stigma to identify as something other than heterosexual is less then more people will admit to alternative sexual orientations. I am guessing the true numbers is something in the region of 10% which is actually higher than the figure you quoted at 5%+.

Whatever the case, even if you run with my higher 10% figure this cannot explain the decline in birth rates which has gone down by over 50% since 1960 (in the US at least). Something else is at foot. My suggestion is those declines come from the increasing cost of childcare, less stable jobs and the lower social pressure to get married. These things factor higher than the rise in the LGBTQ community.

No doubt, the surrounding attitude of the society affects whether people will report accurately and openly admit to alternative sexual behavior.  However, I think there is a positive feedback loop involved here.  The more tolerant and open the society is the more children and adoleescents are exposed to the behavior the more likely it becomes they will choose such behavior.  I think our society is tacitly encouraging more people to choose homosexuality as a behavior.  The question in my mind is whether this encouragement has been planned and orchestrated by the Illuminati?  The prevalence of the role models in the media leads me to believe this is a planned outcome.

In terms of what the true percentage is in Homo Sap of alternative sexual behavior, it's impossible to separate it from the society you are immersed in.  Since Biblical times and the beginning of the Jude-Christian era, sexual behavior has been highly restricted, repressed and controlled.  You won't find any "civilized" country that has had this level of acceptance of alternative sexuality, you have to look at pre-industrial cultures.

On the genetic level, we most closely are related to Bonobos and with no social restrictions at all would probably have similar sexual behavior.  Bonobos have sex all the time with either sex and with juveniles also.  Pedophilia however retains its ultimate taboo status while just about everything else is considered OK, including Beastiality.  If a woman wants to have sex with her Doberman or a man wants to hump his Poodle, it's just a choice, right?

Again, I do agree the economics are a much bigger factor in the dropping birth rate, but both factors are contributors.

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Looks like the Greeks might beat the Koreans and Japanese in the extinction race.

Lots of empty houses. Ironic given just about everywhere else has a housing shortage.  To bad you can't ship the houses to where the people are.

I wonder who will pick the grapes and the olives?

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/11/ghost-towns-show-greeces-battle-with-falling-birth-rate-depopulation.html

Greece's ghost towns offer a glimpse of a country struggling with 'existential' population collapse

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How many times are we going to have this story repeated?  This must be about the 20th time over the last couple of years the same information about the horrible consequences of the declining global fertility rate, about once a month.  Do you get the sense this is following the first rule of propaganda, repeat it so many times it becomesThe Truth?

Top this off with the sage wisdom from Elon'

I think people worry too much about having kids, and it's sometimes difficult to make ends meet and whatnot," Musk said at a rally in Harrisburg, Pa., in October. "But honestly, there's really no time like the present. Just have kids. You won't be sorry. It'll work out.

Dontchya just love how the world's richest man tells everyone not to worry about the cost?  It will all just work out somehow.  Gag me with a spoon.

https://fortune.com/2025/01/19/top-economies-population-collapse-fertility-rates-china-us-debt-gdp-growth/

Top economies face 'population collapse' as fertility rates drop, and something's got to give, study says

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