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Started by RE, May 02, 2024, 02:03 AM

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Quote from: K-Dog on Aug 18, 2024, 01:07 PMClassically Jevon's is only about coal, we know it can be extended to a basket of energies.  Use of any kind of energy will in the absence of limiting restraint increase if any energy becomes more efficient to use.  The inter-dependencies between energy supplies is huge.  A fact not appreciated.  Energy sources do not replace each other.  The truth is they reinforce each other.  Use of one increases the use of others through links that are both physical and through links that result exclusively from human nature.

Most people will regard what I just wrote a blasphemy.

More like an anicient concept replaced by the far superior modern version. Try "rebound effect" and check out the research. Sure, a Ford Model-T was original and cool....a long time ago...and this ain't that time, and a Model T sure ain't a Ford GT40. 


Quote from: K-DogFind deep analysis in the Diner.
Don't you mean we find analysis elsewhere and the Diner links to it for its 3 or 4 regulars?

K-Dog

Quote from: TDoS on Aug 18, 2024, 05:15 PM
Quote from: K-DogFind deep analysis in the Diner.
Don't you mean we find analysis elsewhere and the Diner links to it for its 3 or 4 regulars?
I do my own analysis, and it is clear how I feel about everything I link to here.

RE

Quote from: K-Dog on Aug 18, 2024, 09:33 PM
Quote from: TDoS on Aug 18, 2024, 05:15 PM
Quote from: K-DogFind deep analysis in the Diner.
Don't you mean we find analysis elsewhere and the Diner links to it for its 3 or 4 regulars?
I do my own analysis, and it is clear how I feel about everything I link to here.

As do I.  Back in the Cooler for insulting the Admins and purveying false inforrmation.

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This is not newz to Diners, we've been over this Jevon's Paradox aspect of the so-called "transition" to renewables which isn't happening, but this does give us some more detailed look at how the various types of energy are being consumed and a tineline before TSHTF and we won't be able to meet those wild consumption targets for AI and the power grid.



Maybe we've got a decade left before the shutdowns they're experience in Cuba and Moldova are spread all across Europpe and South America.  Tic Toc.

https://www.resilience.org/stories/2025-01-06/a-reality-check-on-our-energy-transition/

TDoS

Quote from: RE on Jan 06, 2025, 10:40 PM
David Hughes stuff again! I remember him! Wonder if he ever figured out that Marcellus stuff since his Diner days?

Quote from: REMaybe we've got a decade left before the shutdowns they're experience in Cuba and Moldova are spread all across Europpe and South America.  Tic Toc.

Well...we've been through two "got a decade left before..." episodes now, let us usher in the beginning of cheering on #3!

As usual...the odds of personal doom showing up before our hopes and doom dreams occur is far more likely among us geriatrics. Anyone want to bet on something far more serious? How many of us will be alive when someone makes the first angle for "doom in a decade", Take 4, among us surviving geriatrics?

RE

With El Trumpo in the WH, Doom has already arrived.

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