‘A new phase’: why climate activists are turning to sabotage instead of protest

Started by RE, Mar 08, 2025, 07:11 PM

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Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 11, 2025, 04:19 AMYeah, AI is amazing.

QuoteBoth sides of the climate debate share the belief that "we" have practically infinite reserves of fossil fuels and minerals.

Is a dead giveaway.  That is a total crock of shit.

Indeed.  Practically all discussion regarding resources since publication of the Limits to Growth study in the 1970s has focused on the fact you can't have infinite growth in a finite world.  Energy in particular has been examined in excruciating detail WRT the diminishing number of new discoveries and the decreasing EROEI of new discoveries.  The whole reason Fracking has become necessary is because conventional oil fields are mostly played out, or on their way.

Besides energy, resource constraints on everything from topsoil to sand for concrete have been subject for discussion, not to mention rare earth elements, phosphates for fertlizer and high quality coal for steel making.  The statement is so blatantly false and dropped on right at the beginning of the post I didn't bother reading the rest of it.

Far as the use of AI for generating arguments goes,  IMHO it diminishes the validity of the arguments and reflects lazy thinking on the part of the poster.  I'm not interested in having a debate with a machine, anymore than I enjoy playing chess against the computer.   It's too sterile and lacks humanity.

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Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 11, 2025, 03:57 PMMy AI is bigger than his AI.

Yah.  It's the latest competition between Billionaires.   Instead of who has the biggest Super Yacht, it;s who has the biggest AI Data Center.





How many terawatts of power did you consume this year Mark?  How about you Elon?

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