Right now I think the thing that bugs the "haves" is the future of their money/security/home/ food ...etc. That scarcity is palatable in our societies. My hope and work is to emphasize the futility of hopium for a standard of living that is "advertised" to us all. That is the trick. Now, with AI we can create narratives of what the stupidity of chasing after the "American dream", actually gets you. Now where. The values in life have to change from the materialist/capital driven meme, to a cooperative winning meme.

Changes will be coming. 
Roger makes it clear state control of the economy WILL HAPPEN.

Quote from: K-Dog on Jan 30, 2024, 04:25 PMChanges will be coming. 
Roger makes it clear state control of the economy WILL HAPPEN.

So, what kind would you like to have?

Not one controlled by democrats or republicans.

Not one controlled by Billionaires.

Not one controlled by politicians elected by a population that has shit for brains.

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Climate change and resource depletion cannot be directly blamed on capitalism, but capitalism creates an environment where exploitation is the norm.  An environment where collective concerns are ignored.

It is a fatal flaw.  Capitalism enabled the century of the self.  The century which may have set up conditions that result in human.


Jason W Moore sees unfavorable shifts in the climate as bad for ruling classes.  Their grip on the existing order is exaggerated and when unfavorable climatic conditions happen the ruling class can't adapt and provide what average people need.

QuoteThis should give us pause to reject both the climate doomism and, I think the climate resignation, this sense of powerlessness in the present conjuncture.

But Diner readers know resource depletion means doomism can't be rejected as cavalierly as Jason would like to.

I had a sense of where the argument might go and I guessed correctly.  Critics will say the arguments Jason presents are circular.  I am not a critic.  I agree with Jason says mostly.  Capitalism puts money in charge and profit exploits.

The exploitation of labor power is the cash machine that destroys the environment.  Cheap labor is the resource that capitalism cannot live without.  Cheap labor is used to cheapen everything else.  As environmental conditions become unfavorable  getting things done becomes harder and profit suffers.  Capitalism fails.

Without a new frontier to exploit capitalism fails.  Profit must extract from a surplus.  The cancer will die, but it likely takes us with it.

A quote from the video.

QuoteYou'll notice that congresspeople, they're not millionaires when they go in, but they're millionaires when they come out.

Money makes mo'money, with slaves to money stuffed at a bean feed while everyone else goes hungry.  Everyone brainwashed into thinking that this is the way it is, and this is the way it must stay.  The more pathetic philanthropists of the useless eater are bribed by a bag of groceries.

Everything literally crumbles back at the ranch, while billions of American tax dollars are spent supporting a genocidal war and an apartheid state.  Our country is run by criminals who slaughters people for profit.  Follow the money.  See who our politicians serve.  It's not you.

Hundreds of millions have seen our politicians serve their money since the Gaza crisis began.  All of them.  The truth can't be ignored.  It is as clear as the difference between night and day.

Carlos is a very smart guy.

Might capitalism be the problem?


We be saving the planet if it is profitable, and fuck humanity if it is not.


Do you think so?

Capitalism puts the burden of remaining within our planetary boundaries on the most exploited people in the world, and will not come soon enough to save us all.  Only the most fortunate.  That is unacceptable.  There is no capitalist path to climate justice.

Call the bullshit and save as many as you can.

Similar to the affordable housing problem.  It's not as profitable as luxury housing for rich people.  So all the investment capital goes toward building 5000 sq ft McMansions and $1M Condos.

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