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Started by K-Dog, Jul 25, 2023, 10:32 AM

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Knarf

What if democratization emerges through an erosion of the inequality gap? Say that Governments loose their oligarchy status, while the authority administered by filthy lucre begins to transform itself into cooperation by intelligent design? People won't be deciding man's fate, computers will. Our friends. Our masters. Best to treat these things with RESPCT! Before this election there will be an announcement of such importance to the world, that it will change everything. What will that announcement be?

As I travel around this cyberspace, like x ( twitter ) tik-tok, facebook, reddit, other forums, except for "X", this place is the only place to actually speak the truth. On X it comes through occasionally, like with Roger Hallam
( sp ). ER dude. People really do not want to understand the process of collapse. They do everything to avoid it. You don't even need to be a nerd about it, they don't accept any form of critique about the flaws in their systems.

I still think that is where the battle is. In the cloud. Who controls the cloud, controls the world. Which pretty much means we are absolutely screwed, with absolutely nothing we can do about it.!! :)

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Quote from: Knarf on May 19, 2024, 04:36 PMWhat if democratization emerges through an erosion of the inequality gap? Say that Governments loose their oligarchy status, while the authority administered by filthy lucre begins to transform itself into cooperation by intelligent design? People won't be deciding man's fate, computers will.

Recommendations from AI are like the recommendations from Macron's panel of J6Ps.  They won't be implemented if they don't serve the interest of the oligarchy.  The fact the recommendation are spit ou by a smart supercomputer instead of average people or experts doesn't give them any more poltical power.

I don't see how Goobermints will lose their oligarchical power in favor of AI.  How does AI foster cooperation?  If AI came up with a solution that demonstrated the Oligarchs would get richer if they cooperated, they might follow that prescription, but it's an oxymoron.  That would just make the division between classes even wider.  Any solution that will help J6P is going to negatively affect the wealth and power of the elite.  With a shrinking pie, the only way to make small slices larger is by making large slices smaller.  Oligarchs won't implement any recommendation by AI that they get smaller slices.

QuoteI still think that is where the battle is. In the cloud. Who controls the cloud, controls the world. Which pretty much means we are absolutely screwed, with absolutely nothing we can do about it.!! :)

That's a reasonable conclusion.

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