Read the newsletter The Collapse Chronicle 

Main Menu

‘A new phase’: why climate activists are turning to sabotage instead of protest

Started by RE, Mar 08, 2025, 07:11 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

K-Dog

Quote from: RE on Mar 12, 2025, 03:37 AM
Quote from: jupiviv on Mar 12, 2025, 03:19 AMAll I got from that is you've invented a very interesting form ad hominem - ai-generated accusations of other people writing or talking like ai, and it's a follow up to the earlier, more affective troll accusation you made through that bot account. You have a problem with me bc you don't like what I'm saying yet can't articulate that beyond criticizing my use of terms you're unfamiliar with, which backfired. Stop being chickenshit and just blatantly say that and then we can start talking like humans.


Do you deny your post was AI generated?

RE

You admit to being an idiot or you used AI.  Which is it?  You deny using AI, and take credit full credit for the ridiculous bullshit you put out then.  Fine, admit to being a shill then.

Your 1972 article was pure hack contrarian garbage.  There is nothing that can be disagreed with concerning the Limits to Growth study.  The Limits to Growth study is pure math.  System dynamics applied to real world data.  You can disagree with reality, and be an idiot, or not.  That is your choice.  But denying reality is not just another point of view.  That is only what children and men in black get paid to do.

Concerning LTG you do not get to disagree with the study in the Diner.  I have more respect for myself than to let you.  I put at least a hundred hours duplicating the computer program the LTG study used from the original MIT Dynamo manual, and here it is.  To  say I understand the LTG study is a gross understatement.  I can duplicate the fucking work.

https://chasingthesquirrel.com/dynamo.php

The actual manual can be seen under the book icon.

* My AI really is bigger than your AI.  Curtis Yarvin has nothing on me.  Far as that goes compared to me, the ignorant mofo is a wanna be.




RE

Quote from: jupiviv on Mar 12, 2025, 10:43 AMThe ai generated accusation that I write like ai was genuinely funny but this is undisguised rancor. Come up with a better fallacy.

Saying it's a fallacy implies that you take credit for writing the post and did not use AI.  If that is the case, it's not funny, it's sad.  Besides the factual errors, stylistically it's a mess.  The AI Kdog used was better than your prose, both in style and in content.  Quite accurate in its critique.

RE

K-Dog

QuoteCome up with a better fallacy.........You don't get to mischaracterize me because I said something you dislike.

This is my space.  I can do what I want.  Your insults gets you a week in the cooler.


The Diner does not need trolls and thoughtstoppers.

outta_here

Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 12, 2025, 11:28 AM
QuoteCome up with a better fallacy.........You don't get to mischaracterize me because I said something you dislike.

This is my space.  I can do what I want.  Your insults gets you a week in the cooler.


The Diner does not need trolls and thoughtstoppers.
Threats of exclusion are irrelevant to me because the need for online affirmation of the reality of collapse is obsolete. It is palpably unfolding as a fact of life and the only question is what novel forms of deranged twattery emerge from the cynically self-serving, partial acknowledgement thereof by the wealthiest 10-20% of humanity, and whether the workers and peasants can organize an international front against it using the conditions of collapse, war and chaos to their advantage as they did during the first half of the 20th century.

Anyway, I've made what peace I can with it and you two clearly haven't. Good luck. With all undue respect to your replication of LTG "K-Dog", Tom Murphy and Tim Morgan have been extrapolating that into the actually existing present for at least a decade now. Moreover, without the neurotic self-conceit. I don't need to be woken up by anyone, least of all you. Now I'm done.


K-Dog

Quote from: RE on Mar 13, 2025, 11:08 AM

RE
I hope 'he' keeps his word and stays away. A total troll who used a variety of ip addresses.  Which means not much, except that is not what normal people do.  And while the others he mentions have done good math work, nobody but I have reverse engineered the Dynamo manual.  I looked hard for an implementaton before I started.  And that's too bad, it helps people understand what LTG is really all about, and what it is really all about is not the common perception.



Goldernen Oxernen

Quote from: Fantasy Girl on Mar 10, 2025, 02:29 PMI think we have a new troll !

Reminiscent of one with only one V in their name.

By this logic, people are all atheist because they have dogs who don't believe in gods.

I thought he was saying how LTG is received, rather than his own opinion on it.

None of these new active topics are easy to find. I came across this by accident trying to revisit the last one I posted in, which I didn't find. Is it not possible to have the topics /threads listed in order of most recent activity?


K-Dog

Quote from: Goldernen Oxernen on Mar 16, 2025, 08:02 PM
Quote from: Fantasy Girl on Mar 10, 2025, 02:29 PMI think we have a new troll !

Reminiscent of one with only one V in their name.

By this logic, people are all atheist because they have dogs who don't believe in gods.

I thought he was saying how LTG is received, rather than his own opinion on it.

None of these new active topics are easy to find. I came across this by accident trying to revisit the last one I posted in, which I didn't find. Is it not possible to have the topics /threads listed in order of most recent activity?



Our database was broken, it is a long story.  Suffice it to say I am hard at work fixing the problems.


QuoteI thought he was saying how LTG is received, rather than his own opinion on it.

I do not fall for the claim that I am really not talking about what I am talking about as easy I use to.

Fantasy Girl

Quote from: Goldernen Oxernen on Mar 16, 2025, 08:02 PM
Quote from: Fantasy Girl on Mar 10, 2025, 02:29 PMI think we have a new troll !

Reminiscent of one with only one V in their name.

By this logic, people are all atheist because they have dogs who don't believe in gods.

I thought he was saying how LTG is received, rather than his own opinion on it.

None of these new active topics are easy to find. I came across this by accident trying to revisit the last one I posted in, which I didn't find. Is it not possible to have the topics /threads listed in order of most recent activity?



Oh my gawd, like, the source that was all, "how it was received," was totally, like, right-wing propaganda—literally the same kinda trash the tobacco companies used to, like, totally manipulate people. Ugh, so cringe!

K-Dog did good.  Right wing lying ass trolls can play somewhere else.


Goldernen Oxernen

Quote from: Fantasy Girl on Mar 27, 2025, 07:21 PMOh my gawd, like, the source that was all, "how it was received," was totally, like, right-wing propaganda—literally the same kinda trash the tobacco companies used to, like, totally manipulate people. Ugh, so cringe!

K-Dog did good.  Right wing lying ass trolls can play somewhere else.



Fascinating 😍 and your graphics skills are first rate 🥇

Hows about you explain me more on the political meaning of AshVins theorem, over a bottle of wine🍾🍷 in the jacuzzi?

Fantasy Girl

Oh, dude, seriously? Like, wine and hot tubs are just not my thing these days. I'm all in for the revolution. Meybee we put our heads together and come up with a plan that's gonna shake things up and make a real difference?  We can do this, I just know it.  You down?